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Ragingg
Old 11-23-2004, 04:33 AM     Post subject: Good Decision? #1 (permalink)  
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$100 NL Hold'em - Tuesday, November 23, 00:27:51 EDT 2004
Table Table 14733 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: P1 ( $438 )
Seat 5: P2 ( $758.2 )
Seat 6: P3 ( $82 )
Seat 8: P4 ( $99.45 )
Seat 10: Me ( $109.25 )
P1 posts small blind [$1].
P2 posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Me [ 6d 7s ]
P3 folds.
P4 folds.
Me calls [$2].
P1 folds.
P2 raises [$2].
Me calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, 6c, 3h ]
P2 bets [$15].
Me raises [$30].
P2 calls [$15].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]
P2 bets [$76].
Me is all-In.
** Dealing River ** [ Js ]
P2 shows [ 6h, Ah ] a pair of sixes.
Me shows [ 6d, 7s ] two pairs, sevens and sixes.
P2 wins $0.75 from side pot #1 with a pair of sixes.
Me wins $217.5 from the main pot with two pairs, sevens and sixes.
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Aceofone
Old 11-23-2004, 04:48 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Definately a good move in 6-max, the all-in on the turn is probably just him trying to protect against a backdoor flush draw. You flopped top 2 pair, that's a monster, and I probably would have done the same.
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Old 11-23-2004, 10:54 AM #3 (permalink)  
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He's trying to represent the 4 with that bet on the turn, but it's hard to give it to him considering the action leading up to the turn. I'd have called too, and probably have put him on 56s or A7s. I'm suprised it was only A6s, but again I think he was bluffing and trying to represent the str8 on the turn. Well played.
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Old 11-26-2004, 11:31 PM #4 (permalink)  

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Just curious - 67o - I know it's short-handed, but would you normally go in with that? I doubt I would. I doubt I'd call a raise on that either, although it was small. Worked out in the end, but it's pretty loose.
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Old 11-27-2004, 04:54 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Couldn't he have had 74o? I dunno, probably neutral EV in general.
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Old 11-27-2004, 03:50 PM #6 (permalink)  
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You only have to worry about 74o against rippy

I think you played the hand well, because due to his pre flop play you know this guy doesnthave that 4, unless he had A4. Like Drnochance said, he probably was repping that straight on the turn, but you caught him doing it .



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Old 11-27-2004, 06:31 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I think the reason this hand was posted was becuase the allin at 100NL hardly ever represents a weak hand like second pair. You commonly get the lay down for the min raise on the flop. At 100NL, calling the allin with two pair is usually calling with a good second best hand. I wouldn't have been too confident in my hand on the turn becuase it's pretty hard to not put him on 77, 66, 55, 44 or 33. Even hands like 24s or 48s, you see people commonly playing those becuase it's easier to get a laydown if you're playing very aggressive. I don't think you can make this call without a good read, he had a very suprising holding. If you hadn't posted the hand history results, I would have almost been certain he had the set.

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Old 11-27-2004, 09:21 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Two things to consider in this hand that you guys are neglecting:
1. P2 min-raised preflop which means he probably has at least a decent hand (i.e. 99-33, Axs, low suited connector, many 20/21 combos) and possibly a very strong hand (TT-AA or AK/AQ).
2. P2 has a 7x+ buy-in stack in front of him which means he is probably pretty good but also that he could be throwing chip muscle around just because he thinks you're not holding a four or two-pair of better.

Given that he just called your raise on the flop (indicating he didn't flop a set), and raised before the flop (indicating he probably isn't holding a 4), and put you all-in on the scare card (seems like a pot-steal and further indicates he doesn't have a 4), I'd say you made the right call.

Open-limping 6-7 offsuit isn't a very solid move in 6-max, however, and if the turn had brought an 8d instead of the 5d I think I might lean towards folding to his all-in.
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Old 11-27-2004, 09:33 PM #9 (permalink)  
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I don't think he has to raise on the flop becuase it's hard to put ragging on any sort of draw that would hurt his hand. Maybe the gutshot as a longshot, but you would just be playing scared and lose a lot of value from your set if you scare your money away. And if he has the table presence of muscling around, then he would have played his set perfectly on the turn by looking like a steal and protecting against the flush draw.

Of course, it's kinda odd arguing that he had the set when I can see he doesn't. I really wish you people wouldn't post the hand results.

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