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Shrumez
Old 02-10-2006, 11:13 PM     Post subject: Was this a good call or just a lucky catch?? #1 (permalink)  

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Hey folks. Could someone look at this and let me know if i played it stupid and if so, why? I'm trying to analyze my hands and see if I am making good decisions but I'm not sure here. Based on the info I had after the flop it seemed like a marginal call but after I saw how lucky I was with the river I'm just not sure. Thanks a bunch.

PokerStars Game #3927787935: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2006/02/10 - 18:55:51 (ET)
Table 'Dione IV' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: kennydoher ($12.15 in chips)
Seat 2: Pelley77 ($5.35 in chips)
Seat 4: wvtomcat ($9.65 in chips)
Seat 5: Shrumez ($13.15 in chips)
Seat 6: SC_SPI ($3.45 in chips)
Seat 7: call_me_ek ($7.35 in chips)
Seat 8: jumbo_plane ($8.75 in chips)
Seat 9: MLevinson ($12.85 in chips)
Pelley77: posts small blind $0.05
Jaxia: is sitting out
wvtomcat: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Shrumez [Qs Qc]
Jaxia leaves the table
Shrumez: raises $0.20 to $0.30
SC_SPI: folds
call_me_ek: folds
jumbo_plane: folds
MLevinson: folds
kennydoher: raises $1.30 to $1.60
Pelley77: folds
wvtomcat: folds
Shrumez: calls $1.30
*** FLOP *** [Tc Jh 8d]
Shrumez: checks
kennydoher: bets $10.55 and is all-in
Shrumez: calls $10.55
*** TURN *** [Tc Jh 8d] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [Tc Jh 8d Js] [Qd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Shrumez: shows [Qs Qc] (a full house, Queens full of Jacks)
kennydoher: shows [Kc Kd] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
Shrumez collected $23.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $24.45 | Rake $1.20
Board [Tc Jh 8d Js Qd]
Seat 1: kennydoher (button) showed [Kc Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 2: Pelley77 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: wvtomcat (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Shrumez showed [Qs Qc] and won ($23.25) with a full house, Queens full of Jacks
Seat 6: SC_SPI folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: call_me_ek folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: jumbo_plane folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: MLevinson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Shrumez
Old 02-10-2006, 11:25 PM #2 (permalink)  

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ok in thinking this through a bit more, im thinking his big pf reraise should have maybe got me thinking a bit more, but im wondering what you guys would have done. would you have folded QQ right there and if not, what about after the flop? Thanks again.
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Old 02-10-2006, 11:29 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Yeah, I'd call that flop in a heart-beat.
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Old 02-10-2006, 11:46 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Interesting Fnord - does that have to do with the level of play?

Looking at the HH and from what I know of this level of HE, reraises for most players are AK and JJ+ so the only thing in that range that you beat is AK!

I probably fold this as I'm drawing to 6 outs.
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Old 02-11-2006, 01:57 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 id like some clarification here.
This is a case of QQ falling in love with a flop....?
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Old 02-11-2006, 02:39 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Very small stakes, funny bet, a fair number of outs if we don't have him beat.
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Old 02-11-2006, 03:55 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 If I call here, it says a LOT about my opponent.
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Old 02-11-2006, 01:54 PM #8 (permalink)  

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ok so the concensus seems to be split, either it was a mediocre call or a bad call that got lucky. hmmm
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Old 02-11-2006, 02:10 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Id call that flop but i might not call preflop if hes a tight player. If you call preflop you cant fold to that flop for the reasons Fnord said.
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Old 02-11-2006, 05:45 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 I'd just fold, you really don't have that much money invested. You really should raise that way more preflop, 30 cents isn't pushing anyone out.
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Old 02-12-2006, 05:15 AM #11 (permalink)  
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to those who would call, what hand do you think makes a big reraise pf that you're ahead of here? because i would fold this definitely without reads..

also agree with both above posts about raising more pre and consider folding pre to a tight player.
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Old 02-12-2006, 07:23 PM #12 (permalink)  
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