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andmunn

06-13-2007, 03:17 AM Post subject: Good or Bad Fold? 50NL - no reads..

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Getting Hand History Information...
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Hand #42331776-24565 at Union Gap (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 12/Jun/07 23:13:33

startontop is at seat 1 with $21.40.
Nick97 is at seat 2 with $0 (sitting out).
eightKrpm is at seat 3 with $62.45.
Frenchshooter is at seat 4 with $28.
ragmanskip is at seat 5 with $50.50.
chusumfat is at seat 6 with $55.95.
skipre is at seat 7 with $29.55.
HERO is at seat 8 with $55.35.
loumasala is at seat 9 with $47.
The button is at seat 2.

eightKrpm posts the small blind of $.25.
Frenchshooter posts the big blind of $.50.

startontop: -- --
eightKrpm: -- --
Frenchshooter: -- --
ragmanskip: -- --
chusumfat: -- --
skipre: -- --
HERO: Kh Ks
loumasala: -- --

Pre-flop:

ragmanskip folds. chusumfat raises to $1.75. skipre
folds. HERO re-raises to $4. loumasala folds.
startontop folds. eightKrpm folds. Frenchshooter
folds. chusumfat calls.

Flop (board: 6h 5h Qs):

chusumfat checks. HERO bets $6. chusumfat calls.

Turn (board: 6h 5h Qs 5d):

chusumfat bets $20.75. HERO folds. chusumfat is
returned $20.75 (uncalled).

Hand #42331776-24565 Summary:

$1 is raked from a pot of $20.75.
chusumfat wins $19.75.
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Penfold

06-13-2007, 03:39 AM

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strange line, but i happily shove over top

EzDuzIt

06-13-2007, 03:59 AM

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yeah i think i shove over too. and make it more preflop... around 3x his raise.

Knytestorme

06-13-2007, 04:53 AM

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I'd say you are looking at AQh here to give tptk + the nut flush draw and he's putting you on AK or something that has either missed the flop or a lesser flush draw.

Can't really give much more of a feel for it without villan read to see if he'd do this with QQ as well.

Other than that, reraise needs to be around $6 as said previously

bigspenda73

06-13-2007, 05:03 AM

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I get the money in here but I am not sure if I do it as gleefully as the others in this thread.

Deconstructing his line more it looks like a flush draw really. Honestly, if he has a 5 doesn't he have to c/r here after you 3bet PF and cbet strongly? There is just no hand that beats you that makes sense betting full pot on the turn.

andmunn

06-13-2007, 05:32 AM

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In retrospect- you are probably right - i was probably ahead - but i'm always nervous getting all my chips in - at this point in time - and with his bet, it was either all -in, or fold....

I just don't like getting all in with 1 pair on this kind of board....

Andrew.

bigspenda73

06-13-2007, 05:38 AM

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that's a good board to do it on

pokerfan

06-13-2007, 04:51 PM

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no doubt you got all of your chips in

i would do this million times in the same situations.

LimpinAintEZ

06-13-2007, 06:53 PM

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i understand what you mean - I hate getting all in with 1 pairs also - In this situation, he COULD be playing AQ really strong, but alot of times you are also behind -

this is exactly what im having a problem with at 50NL myself - I'm giving too much credit sometimes -

I can see a fold here...im certainly not of the "get your money in you NIT" opinion cause I see this line taken by strong hands....

i like the preflop re-raise amount - i think thats fine - Maybe pot the flop though for $8 or $9 instead of that...the flop is exactly what you want here, and I don't like the hand to go too much farther (unless im against a donk who pays off with garbage, but this is no reads)

hopefully you can see some of his hands soon and get a read for next time -

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Knytestorme

06-14-2007, 07:25 AM

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Just ran pokerstove with villan on AQh and the results surprised me that's for sure.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

44 games 0.019 secs 2,315 games/sec

Board: 6h 5h Qs 5d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 70.455% 70.45% 00.00% 31 0.00 { KhKs }
Hand 1: 29.545% 29.55% 00.00% 13 0.00 { AhQh }

Jimmy Mac

06-14-2007, 04:06 PM

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Pre flop raise is too small in my opinion, you raised barely more than the minimum and offered the guy some pretty tasty implied odds.

As played I can't see a fold here and I'm a huge nit. He raised under the gun, so what can he have that beats us? No way he does this with QQ. AA is a possibility I guess, but I think AQ, KQ or the heart draw are the most likely hands. Anyways, I shove over his ridiculous turn bet.

andmunn

06-14-2007, 09:49 PM

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My PF raise was "small", because ideally i would like a caller with KK - i'd like a call with A/Q, A/J , K/Q, etc type of hands. I don't want someone to "just fold" and win a minimum pot - is my thinking wrong?

I do think i was ahead, but his bet "scared me" and with so little invested in the pot - i let it go.

EzDuzIt

06-14-2007, 10:14 PM

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yes. you want to isolate and build a pot.

pokerroomace

06-14-2007, 10:49 PM

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push. strange line by villain.

reads would be nice here

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