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bspahn

01-06-2005, 11:34 PM Post subject: Getting in trouble on a draw

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Here I am on the button, I limp as I don't view QJs as all that strong as it loses to pairs as well as higher over cards easily.

I don't like the min bet on a pot of $0.50 and with only one caller before me I decide to raise to really see where everybody's at and two call.

If someone had the King I'd expect a re-raise there, but they could call, maybe someone has a set or even a boat and they're smooth calling.

Now the pot's $2 and on the seemingly useless turn card I want to test the waters for $1, as I'd expect one of the two to raise if they do have the King, set or boat. Especially in the case of the King or set as they dont want to see a draw. With the raise and a call I figure I have no choice but to get out - yes I still have the flush draw but it's not the nut!

Started at 06/Jan/05 04:23:48

KOR is at seat 1 with $14.91.
kGbWiNs8 is at seat 3 with $9.47.
padriver is at seat 4 with $1.28.
ImBeagleman5 is at seat 5 with $3.72.
Mr 3am is at seat 6 with $0 (sitting out).
Dep ME is at seat 8 with $3.90.
suzie79 is at seat 9 with $9.05.
The button is at seat 9.

KOR posts the small blind of $.05.
kGbWiNs8 posts the big blind of $.10.

KOR: -- --
kGbWiNs8: -- --
padriver: -- --
ImBeagleman5: -- --
Dep ME: -- --
suzie79: Qd Jd

Pre-flop:

padriver calls. ImBeagleman5 folds. Dep ME calls.
suzie79 calls. KOR calls. kGbWiNs8 checks.

Flop (board: 8d Kd 8c):

KOR bets $.10. kGbWiNs8 calls. padriver folds.
Dep ME folds. suzie79 raises to $.50. KOR calls.
kGbWiNs8 calls.

Turn (board: 8d Kd 8c 6h):

KOR checks. kGbWiNs8 checks. suzie79 bets $1. KOR
raises to $2. kGbWiNs8 calls. suzie79 folds.

River (board: 8d Kd 8c 6h 2d):

KOR bets $7. kGbWiNs8 goes all-in for $6.87. KOR is
returned $.13 (uncalled).

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magicmntn

01-07-2005, 07:34 AM Post subject: why fold?

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Unless you figure someone for the boat you need to call the dollar raise. there are already 2 people in for $2. This gives you a great price on your flush draw. Make the call.

bspahn

01-07-2005, 06:44 PM

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i can justify the pot odds for the flush draw and I guess potential for the boat, however i'm not looking at the nut for the flush - how should that influence my call ? Make it and see what happens on the river ?
Say i get the flush, do i bet the pot and see what happens?

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