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renegaderob1
Old 09-24-2005, 03:33 PM     Post subject: Getting more money in the pot #1 (permalink)  
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This hand took my BR to it's highest point since I started. My min-raise on the flop was so that I didn't scare anybody away from the pot. Any more money to be had here, or would that just be greedy?

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$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, September 24, 10:24:22 EDT 2005
Table Table 37223 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: DisisHo ( $22.25 )
Seat 3: PlanerVision ( $37.49 )
Seat 4: Evensar ( $18.05 )
Seat 5: markbl ( $30.10 )
Seat 6: kmac444 ( $75.05 )
Seat 1: renegaderob1 ( $30.35 )
PlanerVision posts small blind [$0.10].
Evensar posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to renegaderob1 [ Kd Kh ]
markbl folds.
kmac444 calls [$0.25].
renegaderob1 raises [$1.50].
DisisHo folds.
PlanerVision folds.
Evensar calls [$1.25].
kmac444 calls [$1.25].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 3d, 8s ]
Evensar bets [$2].
kmac444 calls [$2].
>You have options at Table 36738 (6 max) Table!.
renegaderob1 raises [$4].
>You have options at Table 36738 (6 max) Table!.
Evensar calls [$2].
kmac444 calls [$2].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ]
Evensar checks.
kmac444 checks.
>You have options at Table 36738 (6 max) Table!.
renegaderob1 bets [$2].
Evensar calls [$2].
>You have options at Table 36738 (6 max) Table!.
kmac444 calls [$2].
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
Evensar checks.
kmac444 bets [$25].
renegaderob1 is all-In [$22.85]
>You have options at Table 36738 (6 max) Table!.
Evensar folds.
kmac444 shows [ Jd, Th ] two pairs, jacks and threes.
renegaderob1 shows [ Kd, Kh ] two pairs, kings and threes.
kmac444 wins $2.15 from side pot #1 with two pairs, jacks and threes.
renegaderob1 wins $65.30 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and threes.
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BIGandRICH
Old 09-24-2005, 05:27 PM     Post subject: Re: Getting more money in the pot #2 (permalink)  
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Dealt to renegaderob1 [ Kd Kh ]
kmac444 calls [$0.25].
renegaderob1 raises [$1.50].
Evensar calls [$1.25].
kmac444 calls [$1.25].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 3d, 8s ]
Evensar bets [$2].
kmac444 calls [$2].

at this point there is about $9 in the pot.. and you make it 4?? slam it up to the full pot. an over pair is not a strong enough hand to hang around building the pot up against multiple opponents, raising 2.. to 4, means they are now calling 2 into a $13 pot.. so they are getting decent odds (counting implied) to catch a 2 pair on you.

renegaderob1 raises [$4].
Evensar calls [$2].
kmac444 calls [$2].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ]
Evensar checks.
kmac444 checks.
renegaderob1 bets [$2]. now theres about $17, and you bet 2?.. AGRESSION. me having raised more at the flop, I then would be AI at this point
Evensar calls [$2].
kmac444 calls [$2].
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
Evensar checks.
kmac444 bets [$25].
renegaderob1 is all-In [$22.85]
Evensar folds.
kmac444 shows [ Jd, Th ] two pairs, jacks and threes.
renegaderob1 shows [ Kd, Kh ] two pairs, kings and threes.
kmac444 wins $2.15 from side pot #1 with two pairs, jacks and threes.
renegaderob1 wins $65.30 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and threes.

and the last thing, raising less gives you less information.. if you raise to 9 or 10 on the flop.. and they put you AI, then they have a big hand, if they put the raise to 4 all in.. then you have a harder decision.. try to avoid hard decisions.
villain goes AI
i call with a set (i have him owned)
i win pot
villain: **** this, this site is bullshit, ******* rigged, suck out ****
 
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Old 09-24-2005, 05:49 PM     Post subject: Re: Getting more money in the pot #3 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by renegaderob1
My min-raise on the flop was so that I didn't scare anybody away from the pot.
even if a bigger raise does scare them out.. then you've won $7 without any difficulty.. i'd be happy with that. Also remembering that this is 25NL.. do they get scared? ever??
villain goes AI
i call with a set (i have him owned)
i win pot
villain: **** this, this site is bullshit, ******* rigged, suck out ****
 
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renegaderob1
Old 09-25-2005, 12:05 AM     Post subject: Re: Getting more money in the pot #4 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by renegaderob1
My min-raise on the flop was so that I didn't scare anybody away from the pot.
even if a bigger raise does scare them out.. then you've won $7 without any difficulty.. i'd be happy with that. Also remembering that this is 25NL.. do they get scared? ever??
I see what you mean. Thanks.

As to them being scared off, I have found that a lot of the time people are scared away if I bet big after I do the prf raising... maybe the tables I'm playing on are just tighter?
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Old 09-26-2005, 11:05 AM     Post subject: Re: Getting more money in the pot #5 (permalink)  
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I see what you mean. Thanks.

As to them being scared off, I have found that a lot of the time people are scared away if I bet big after I do the prf raising... maybe the tables I'm playing on are just tighter?
yes, quite possible.. pay attention to the stats of the tables before sitting down.. high % of players per flop, and a high average pot are tables that should see you getting paid off more.
villain goes AI
i call with a set (i have him owned)
i win pot
villain: **** this, this site is bullshit, ******* rigged, suck out ****
 
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Old 09-26-2005, 02:55 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I agree with RICH here. Overpairs are strong to the flop type hands. You want most of your equity on the front end, because you're going to blow it out before the turn or river. That's the proper way to play them.
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