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Setzy

12-04-2007, 05:20 PM Post subject: FTR FR Cash Game!

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I was thinking last night about how I'm grinding so hard, maybe it's time to take it easy for a night. Maybe you grinders should too, play some good, friendly competition and then go back to your games fresh...plus we could chat about hands at the table in a good environment, like the FTR Chat Room! Anyone up for a FR cash game on Stars tonight with me?

Post what limit you'd like to play, we could try to accomodate as many as possible, maybe even two or three tables. I think we should play a lower stake than we usually play, but something big enough to keep us trying 100%. For me that's like 50NL or 100NL. Maybe we can even split up a few limits if there's a lot of different ranges. It'll be fun, and so few of these games actually come together, let's make one happen!

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pgil

12-04-2007, 07:07 PM

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what time are you thinking?

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Deanglow

12-04-2007, 07:16 PM

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Sure, I'm up for any limit up to 2/4 but I will probably not play good below 25NL. Good idea. Any time is fine

Setzy

12-04-2007, 08:01 PM

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For those interested, let's meet up in FTR Chat around 8:30 PM EST and find a table.

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Renton

12-04-2007, 08:07 PM

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i'd like to play meaningful stakes, something like 100nl

XTR1000

12-04-2007, 08:23 PM

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XTR1000 is an unknown quantity at this point

I´d like to play too, need to check if i have moniez on my neteller and what 8:30est would be in cet. I´m fine with 50 or 100NL

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yo

Renton

12-04-2007, 08:33 PM

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also, since we're multitabling nits, 2 or 3 tables would be good too

kingnat

12-04-2007, 08:34 PM

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This sounds like fun... hopefully I'll have some free time tonight... I'd like to vote for 50NL, I realize that might be beyond boring for some, but playing 100NL against multiple good players has got to be a bad idea on my part. (I'm also embarrassed to say this, but I really don't have the BR at the current time to comfortably spew at 100NL.)... maybe if it's too big for me I'll just rail and join the chat... (god I'm such a wuss.)

I hope this would be a private game that we set up on Stars and for which we could get the password in the chat room or something.

So you click their picture and then you get their money?

Renton

12-04-2007, 08:37 PM

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odn't think thats possible, but if we coordinate it in the chat room all at once we'll fill the table

kingnat

12-04-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Renton

odn't think thats possible, but if we coordinate it in the chat room all at once we'll fill the table

I suppose if we can't do private that's the best option.

So you click their picture and then you get their money?

Miffed22001

12-04-2007, 09:03 PM

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im thinking of being up so ill buy in for 100nl and actually try to play properly, which i thin krenton is getting at

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12-04-2007, 09:14 PM

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allright, I found moniez and it wouldn´t be too late (est is 5hrs behind cet, right?)

here we go, I´´m sure this will be fun

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Setzy

12-04-2007, 09:22 PM

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Exactly, we meet up in the Chat Room so we can all sit down at the tables at the same time and not get any weirdos/reg nits etc.

How about 2 tables of 50NL and 2 tables of 100NL, doesn't that sound like it would suit well? 8:30 EST, we'll set it up.

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Deanglow

12-04-2007, 09:23 PM

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Maybe we can turn this into a mini-beginners guide or something. Most likely on how not to play.

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12-04-2007, 09:26 PM

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Maybe we can turn this into a mini-beginners guide or something. Most likely on how not to play.

i can demonstrate this in every hand i play

kingnat

12-04-2007, 11:21 PM

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I suppose I could just shortstack the 100NL game... I'm a highly skilled shortstack player. http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...2479&start=140

So you click their picture and then you get their money?

Setzy

12-05-2007, 12:38 AM

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We're set up on three 100NL tables, Hibbs, Raimonda and Baucis. Come play!

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12-05-2007, 01:10 AM

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PokerStars Game #13655687300: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/12/04 - 21:06:16 (ET)
Table 'Raimonda' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: WildBob182 ($111.30 in chips)
Seat 2: JDOGG393 ($40.65 in chips)
Seat 3: Spagiari ($96.50 in chips)
Seat 4: heybude ($99.50 in chips)
Seat 5: XTR1000 ($98 in chips)
Seat 6: SetzerMason ($224.95 in chips)
Seat 7: kemikar ($210.50 in chips)
Seat 8: Autosurff ($54.50 in chips)
Seat 9: kingnat ($49.55 in chips)
XTR1000: posts small blind $0.50
SetzerMason: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SetzerMason [Ks 9c]
kemikar: folds
Autosurff: folds
kingnat: folds
WildBob182: folds
JDOGG393: folds
Spagiari: folds
heybude: raises $3 to $4
XTR1000: folds
SetzerMason: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [4d 2c Td]
SetzerMason: checks
heybude: bets $6
SetzerMason: calls $6
*** TURN *** [4d 2c Td] [Js]
SetzerMason: checks
heybude: checks
*** RIVER *** [4d 2c Td Js] [9h]
SetzerMason: bets $10
heybude: raises $10 to $20
SetzerMason said, "supersick minraise donuts!"
SetzerMason said, "heh"
SetzerMason said, "i hit the river, but nothing spectacular"
heybude said, "ur bluffing"
SetzerMason: folds
heybude collected $38.55 from pot
SetzerMason said, "k9o'"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $40.50 | Rake $1.95
Board [4d 2c Td Js 9h]
Seat 1: WildBob182 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: JDOGG393 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Spagiari folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: heybude (button) collected ($38.55)
Seat 5: XTR1000 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: SetzerMason (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 7: kemikar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Autosurff folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: kingnat folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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12-05-2007, 01:12 AM

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nice thin vbet, didn't think you had it in you

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12-05-2007, 01:13 AM

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Who wants to start a 50NL table?

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12-05-2007, 01:24 AM

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Actually screw it i need sleep fairly desperately. Have fun all

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12-05-2007, 01:32 AM

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12-05-2007, 01:39 AM

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need more tables for sure

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12-05-2007, 02:17 AM

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PokerStars Game #13656933180: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/12/04 - 22:11:46 (ET)
Table 'Raimonda' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: WildBob182 ($100.40 in chips)
Seat 2: JtowneJay ($79 in chips)
Seat 3: Spagiari ($99.10 in chips)
Seat 4: zagagolfer15 ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: pgil ($99 in chips)
Seat 6: SetzerMason ($215.80 in chips)
Seat 7: kemikar ($220.25 in chips)
Seat 8: Kingcovey ($101.40 in chips)
Seat 9: kingnat ($88.35 in chips)
JtowneJay: posts small blind $0.50
Spagiari: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WildBob182 [Kd Kc]
zagagolfer15: folds
pgil: raises $2 to $3
SetzerMason: folds
kemikar: folds
Kingcovey: folds
kingnat: calls $3
kingnat said, "sup pgil"
WildBob182: raises $9.55 to $12.55
JtowneJay: folds
Spagiari: folds
pgil: calls $9.55
kingnat: folds
*** FLOP *** [4s 5s 6s]
pgil: bets $19
WildBob182: raises $68.85 to $87.85 and is all-in
pgil: calls $67.45 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [4s 5s 6s] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [4s 5s 6s 9h] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pgil: shows [3h 3d] (a straight, Three to Seven)
WildBob182: mucks hand
pgil collected $199.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $202.50 | Rake $3
Board [4s 5s 6s 9h 7c]
Seat 1: WildBob182 (button) mucked [Kd Kc]
Seat 2: JtowneJay (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Spagiari (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: zagagolfer15 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: pgil showed [3h 3d] and won ($199.50) with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 6: SetzerMason folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: kemikar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Kingcovey folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: kingnat folded before Flop

pgil

12-05-2007, 02:42 AM

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my thinking was it was a good scary flop to bet, and then I figured 8-10 outs vs your overpair

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12-05-2007, 02:45 AM

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Some fun hands indeed
Nice try I'm a station
POKERSTARS GAME #13655461402: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/12/04 - 20:54:24 (ET)
Table 'Raimonda' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Duffy0816 ($27.55 in chips)
Seat 2: JDOGG393 ($19.15 in chips)
Seat 3: Spagiari ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 4: heybude ($135.10 in chips)
Seat 5: XTR1000 ($99.45 in chips)
Seat 6: SetzerMason ($237.45 in chips)
Seat 7: kemikar ($103.55 in chips)
Seat 9: kingnat ($43.05 in chips)
heybude: posts small blind $0.50
XTR1000: posts big blind $1
Autosurff: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kemikar [Kh Js]
SetzerMason: raises $3 to $4
kemikar said, "I CALL"
kemikar: calls $4
kingnat: folds
Duffy0816: folds
JDOGG393: folds
Spagiari: folds
heybude: raises $10 to $14
XTR1000: folds
SetzerMason: calls $10
kemikar said, "lol wow"
kemikar: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [8h 9s 3d]
heybude: checks
SetzerMason: checks
kemikar: checks
*** TURN *** [8h 9s 3d] [Tc]
heybude: bets $21
SetzerMason: folds
kemikar: calls $21
*** RIVER *** [8h 9s 3d Tc] [Kd]
heybude: bets $44
kemikar said, "wow i really dont wanna show this"
heybude said, "then dont"
kemikar said, "i know ur donk *** has AK"
kemikar said, "i would snap K9"
heybude said, "lol at folding K9"
kemikar said, "I have KJ"
SetzerMason said, "if you have k9"
SetzerMason said, "in htis pot"
SetzerMason said, "allin"
SetzerMason said, "lol"
kemikar said, "lol i should"
kemikar: calls $44
*** SHOW DOWN ***
heybude: shows [3c 5c] (a pair of Threes)
kemikar: shows [Kh Js] (a pair of Kings)
kemikar collected $170 from pot
kemikar said, "LOL"
heybude said, "yay!"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $173 | Rake $3
Board [8h 9s 3d Tc Kd]
Seat 1: Duffy0816 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: JDOGG393 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Spagiari (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: heybude (small blind) showed [3c 5c] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 5: XTR1000 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: SetzerMason folded on the Turn
Seat 7: kemikar showed [Kh Js] and won ($170) with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: kingnat folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Nice call preflop donk

POKERSTARS GAME #13656090525: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/12/04 - 21:27:22 (ET)
Table 'Baucis' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: SetzerMason ($112.35 in chips)
Seat 2: heybude ($328.40 in chips)
Seat 3: MAToAK ($59 in chips)
Seat 4: Kingcovey ($99 in chips)
Seat 5: kemikar ($116.15 in chips)
Seat 6: XTR1000 ($175.55 in chips)
Seat 7: kingnat ($50 in chips)
Seat 9: WildBob182 ($100 in chips)
Kingcovey: posts small blind $0.50
kemikar: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kemikar [Kc As]
XTR1000: folds
kingnat: folds
WildBob182: raises $2.50 to $3.50
heybude said, "Fairfield"
SetzerMason: calls $3.50
heybude: folds
kingnat said, "i lived in ames the last 6 years"
MAToAK: folds
Kingcovey: folds
kemikar: raises $12.50 to $16
ba dum dum is connected
WildBob182: folds
SetzerMason: calls $12.50
*** FLOP *** [Qh 2s Qd]
ba dum dum has returned
kemikar: bets $23.30
SetzerMason: calls $23.30
*** TURN *** [Qh 2s Qd] [2c]
kemikar: bets $76.85 and is all-in
SetzerMason: calls $73.05 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Qh 2s Qd 2c] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kemikar: shows [Kc As] (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
SetzerMason: shows [Qc Kd] (a full house, Queens full of Deuces)
kemikar said, "*******"
SetzerMason collected $225.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $228.70 | Rake $3
Board [Qh 2s Qd 2c Jc]
Seat 1: SetzerMason showed [Qc Kd] and won ($225.70) with a full house, Queens full of Deuces
Seat 2: heybude folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: MAToAK (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Kingcovey (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: kemikar (big blind) showed [Kc As] and lost with two pair, Queens and Deuces
Seat 6: XTR1000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: kingnat folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: WildBob182 folded before Flop

KJ is teh nutzzzzzzzzz

POKERSTARS GAME #13656212372: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/12/04 - 21:33:52 (ET)
Table 'Baucis' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: SetzerMason ($213.70 in chips)
Seat 2: heybude ($359.75 in chips)
Seat 3: MAToAK ($59 in chips)
Seat 4: Kingcovey ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: kemikar ($106.05 in chips)
Seat 6: XTR1000 ($174.05 in chips)
Seat 7: kingnat ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 8: ba dum dum ($18.50 in chips)
Seat 9: WildBob182 ($100 in chips)
WildBob182: posts small blind $0.50
SetzerMason: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kemikar [As Ad]
heybude: raises $3 to $4
MAToAK: folds
Kingcovey: calls $4
ba dum dum is disconnected
kemikar: raises $15 to $19
XTR1000: folds
kingnat: folds
ba dum dum is connected
ba dum dum: folds
WildBob182: folds
SetzerMason: folds
heybude: raises $340.75 to $359.75 and is all-in
Kingcovey: folds
kemikar: calls $87.05 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [2h Kd Qh]
kemikar said, "i have aces u ****tard"
*** TURN *** [2h Kd Qh] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [2h Kd Qh 9c] [9h]
heybude said, "lolololol"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
heybude: shows [Jh Kh] (a flush, King high)
kemikar: mucks hand
heybude collected $214.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $217.60 | Rake $3
Board [2h Kd Qh 9c 9h]
Seat 1: SetzerMason (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: heybude showed [Jh Kh] and won ($214.60) with a flush, King high
Seat 3: MAToAK folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Kingcovey folded before Flop
Seat 5: kemikar mucked [As Ad]
Seat 6: XTR1000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: kingnat folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ba dum dum (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: WildBob182 (small blind) folded before Flop

And another suck out :{

POKERSTARS GAME #13655515868: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/12/04 - 20:57:15 (ET)
Table 'Hibbs' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: leandro10 ($95.65 in chips)
Seat 2: adqe ($36.30 in chips)
Seat 3: king_noth_ ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 4: SetzerMason ($100.95 in chips)
Seat 5: kemikar ($99 in chips)
Seat 6: kingnat ($20 in chips)
Seat 7: jared_jon ($206.35 in chips)
Seat 8: XTR1000 ($114.70 in chips)
Seat 9: Renton555 ($292.95 in chips)
kemikar: posts small blind $0.50
kingnat: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kemikar [7c 3c]
jared_jon: folds
XTR1000: folds
kingnat said, "lol... i play bad"
Renton555 has timed out while being disconnected
Renton555: folds
Renton555 is sitting out
leandro10: folds
adqe: folds
king_noth_: folds
SetzerMason: raises $3 to $4
kemikar: calls $3.50
kingnat: raises $16 to $20 and is all-in
SetzerMason: folds
kemikar: calls $16
*** FLOP *** [7d 3s As]
kingnat said, "jj"
*** TURN *** [7d 3s As] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [7d 3s As Kc] [Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kemikar: shows [7c 3c] (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
kingnat: shows [Js Jc] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
kemikar said, "OMG"
kingnat collected $41.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $44 | Rake $2.20
Board [7d 3s As Kc Ks]
Seat 1: leandro10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: adqe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: king_noth_ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SetzerMason (button) folded before Flop
Seat 5: kemikar (small blind) showed [7c 3c] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 6: kingnat (big blind) showed [Js Jc] and won ($41.80) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 7: jared_jon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: XTR1000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Renton555 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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12-05-2007, 02:50 AM

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my thinking was it was a good scary flop to bet, and then I figured 8-10 outs vs your overpair

lol, good thinking, great place to call off your stack

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12-05-2007, 02:55 AM

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do you bet that flop if I check to you, and if so, how much

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12-05-2007, 02:57 AM

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I'm betting 30 on flop, calling push.

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12-05-2007, 12:07 PM

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Damn I´m such a monkey when I´m tired

Playing with u guys was amazing, tho I´m now stars-busto.

Thanks Setzy for getting this action started, great idea and I hope it wasn´t the last time!

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xtr stand for exotic tranny retards

yo

kingnat

12-05-2007, 01:06 PM

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I folded KTss on this hand..

So you click their picture and then you get their money?

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12-05-2007, 03:26 PM

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I don't think pgil could have played that hand any worse

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12-05-2007, 03:51 PM

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I'm sure I could have....., you just don't give me enough credit

I played quite a few hands horribly last night. I love blowing people out of pots with the near nuts...yay

I'm not really good with odds, but with 10 outs am I not ~1.5:1 to make it by the river? (If I am wrong please correct me quickly as this could lead to a lot of mistakes) with about 2:1 being laid by the pot I called.

add in the fact that the table (from the few hands that I had seen) was playing a little laggy so you could have a random high card/flush draw hand, granted you didn't, but it was possible.

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12-05-2007, 04:26 PM

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POKERSTARS GAME #13657052060: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/12/04 - 22:18:03 (ET)
Table 'Raimonda' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: WildBob182 ($100 in chips)
Seat 2: JtowneJay ($80 in chips)
Seat 3: Spagiari ($97.60 in chips)
Seat 4: zagagolfer15 ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 5: pgil ($205.15 in chips)
Seat 6: SetzerMason ($198.80 in chips)
Seat 7: kemikar ($297.75 in chips)
Seat 8: Kingcovey ($101.40 in chips)
Seat 9: kingnat ($81.35 in chips)
kemikar: posts small blind $0.50
Kingcovey: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pgil []
kingnat: folds
WildBob182: folds
JtowneJay: folds
Spagiari: folds
zagagolfer15: folds
pgil: raises $2 to $3
SetzerMason: folds
kemikar: calls $2.50
Kingcovey: folds
*** FLOP *** [9c 6d 6h]
kemikar: checks
pgil: bets $4
kemikar: calls $4
*** TURN *** [9c 6d 6h] [5s]
kemikar: bets $12

is this a blocking bet on the turn with a moderate hand, or an attempt to steal by repping the straight, or a combination of both?

against the players I usually play it's almost always the straight (or some other hand that they are itching to take deep)

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WildBobAA

12-05-2007, 04:39 PM

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Ok, here's my analysis of the hand. While in fact the table was playing loose, I was playing like a nit as was kingnat. I had never played with you before so I'm not going to squeeze a UTG+1 raise and an MP call with nothing.

Calling a large 3-bet with small pairs OOP is just a bad play. There's just so many flops that you're going to have to C/F and even if you flop a set, you're not getting great set odds and even if you flop one, you're not guaranteed to get my stack since I'm not stacking off with a missed AK/AQ.

Now let's look at the flop without the betting. If both of the hands were turned face up and you were given the option of putting both of our stacks in the middle, are you really excited to get your money in vs an overpair here? Of course not since you're a 2-1 dog to win the hand (cardpayer.com odds calculator). Now once you make the $19 bet on the flop then you have to call my shove because you're getting the right odds but those are false odds created by your $19 bet. What is the purpose of that $19 bet anyway? I would like to hear your reasoning behind it.

There's also another factor in the hand, the flop is all spades. You said that you put me on an overpair , but if one of my cards is a spade, you're a 4-1 dog to win the hand.

The problem for you in stacking off on this flop is that you're never way ahead here. You're either racing with AK/AQ that has a spade or your a big dog to an overpair, spade or no spade.

I know I've gone on about this had a bit but honestly, the had itself didn't bother me. The fact that you thought you played it good is what bothers me.

Deanglow

12-05-2007, 07:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pgil

I honestly had air, but I'm curious to know what your cards were.

lolzzz_321

12-06-2007, 02:51 AM

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pgil

12-06-2007, 04:27 AM

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i didnt think i played it well or even correctly, i just didnt think it was horrible. besides, I was there to have some fun and mess around, not make money.

my flop bet was an attempt to steal given how very scary the flop was: suited, connected, and low. I think it was a bit low though, so a bet of 22-24 would have been better, if I decide to lead. I think if you fold even a small percentage of the time it may be enough to swing it to an almost break-even play. I mean, QQ/JJ w/ no spade don't look very good on that flop vs. an UTG raiser that you have no history with.

And setzy, I had 99 for the boat and thought that you might have hit the straight/6. I was wrong, and it was the worst possible bet I could make vs a good opponent, which I am not used to playing against. If I flat call the turn, I would imagine you will be betting the river.

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