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Duckslayer2k
Old 12-17-2006, 06:19 AM     Post subject: Folding KK preflop? 1/2 NL FR PS #1 (permalink)  
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I'm playing 1/2 NL full ring on Poker Stars.

I don't see how you guys can say NEVER to fold KK preflop... I recently thought this was mostly true until I played this hand. I put him on AA as the only possible holding... he would never play AK this way.

Phil Gordon says "the fourth raise means AA" and he wasn't joking, especially when this 4th reraise push comes from someone who intially limped UTG!

Over 374 hands he is 18/9 with a total AF of 1.7. Won $ at showdown 67% of the time.

THE HAND:

http://www.pokerhand.org/?670709

Yet, I couldn't bring myself to fold because of how everyone always talks about never folding KK prelfop... Now, I plan on never folding KK preflop 98% of the time instead of 100% of the time.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:26 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 looks a pretty easy fold.
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Old 12-17-2006, 12:36 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 Question: what range are you reraising to 70 with here? This seems like an information raise that helps to define his hand when he has AA, but also completely unveils yours in the process (in case you have him beaten).


As played, its a pretty clear fold to the 200 shove.

Im not exactly sure how i would have played this ( i don't play full ring anymore). Maybe call the 22 and at least get away on A high flops.

See you have position here and that helps. You should call the 22, call his flop bet, and then fold when/if he shoves the turn.
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