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gametight
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08-24-2007, 11:52 PM
Post subject: Folding AA on the flop
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With no reads, do you like this laydown?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP1 ($58.90)
MP2 ($112.35)
CO ($69.50)
Button ($20)
SB ($41.40)
BB ($82.50)
Hero ($95)
UTG+1 ($77.25)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A , A .
Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, MP1 calls $3, 2 folds, Button calls $3, 2 folds.
Flop: ($10.50) 7 , 6 , 9 (3 players)
Hero bets $7, MP1 raises to $17, Button calls $17 (All-In), Hero folds.
Turn: ($0) J (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($0) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $51.50
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Jack Sawyer
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You have them both covered.
Also, why the weak pf raise? Extract max value from your big hands. Bet more PF, do whatever it takes to get to the flop HU or against as few villains as possible.
That said, I'm never ever folding AA on this flop. Threebet/ push as played.
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larsmars
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I think they're too short for you to fold.
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Originally Posted by larsmars
I think they're too short for you to fold.
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WildBobAA
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Here's some advice: Shortstacks = morons
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GrindCity3
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yea you have to call the allins
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I gotta get back to the money....
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daven
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raise $5-$6 pre-flop, that would change how the turn felt... Re-raise allin on flop. Feels nice to stack two players at once, especially shortstacks. I don't like shortstacks.
That;s the theory anyway. I would probably fold here and pick another spot when I had some reads... but i'm a little weak on the no-limit front.
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chipware
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Yes, is very short to flop
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
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shove
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Originally Posted by daven
raise $5-$6 pre-flop
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imo there usually isn't a good reason to open for 6bb's.
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Originally Posted by chipware
Yes, is very short to flop
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what's with this guy? this is the 2nd cryptic post i've seen.
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Originally Posted by chipware
Yes, is very short to flop
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what's with this guy? this is the 2nd cryptic post i've seen.
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The clues in the name methinks. Expect 5 more lame posts followed by some spam about chips...? Just a guess
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Originally Posted by chipware
Yes, is very short to flop
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what's with this guy? this is the 2nd cryptic post i've seen.
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I'm thinking he can't speak english.
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by chipware
Yes, is very short to flop
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what's with this guy? this is the 2nd cryptic post i've seen.
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I'm thinking he can't speak english.
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ah ha! that actually didn't even cross my mind lol. i thought everyone spoke american.
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dont you think TT+ will do this off a short stack? on a flop, i have to push over. if its a straight or set, then "nh, sir."
i'm a huge nit, and i make this shove.
heroic folds cost me a lot of money, and i think they may be costing you, as well.
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id come on my keyboard....then call.
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id come on my keyboard....then call.
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LOL!! awesome.
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imo there usually isn't a good reason to open for 6bb's.
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true. 4-5bb though, depending on what is your default play. I think 3bb is too weak though
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
i thought everyone spoke american.
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Noone speaks american.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
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bode
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4bbs pre and all you can eat on the flop. I never give short stacks credit.
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