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Old 08-24-2007, 11:52 PM     Post subject: Folding AA on the flop #1 (permalink)  
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With no reads, do you like this laydown?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($58.90)
MP2 ($112.35)
CO ($69.50)
Button ($20)
SB ($41.40)
BB ($82.50)
Hero ($95)
UTG+1 ($77.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A.
Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, MP1 calls $3, 2 folds, Button calls $3, 2 folds.

Flop: ($10.50) 7, 6, 9 (3 players)
Hero bets $7, MP1 raises to $17, Button calls $17 (All-In), Hero folds.

Turn: ($0) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($0) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $51.50
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Old 08-25-2007, 04:07 AM #2 (permalink)  
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You have them both covered.
Also, why the weak pf raise? Extract max value from your big hands. Bet more PF, do whatever it takes to get to the flop HU or against as few villains as possible.

That said, I'm never ever folding AA on this flop. Threebet/ push as played.
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:45 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I think they're too short for you to fold.
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Old 08-25-2007, 06:49 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I think they're too short for you to fold.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:03 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Here's some advice: Shortstacks = morons
 
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Old 08-28-2007, 09:46 AM #6 (permalink)  
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yea you have to call the allins
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:17 AM #7 (permalink)  
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raise $5-$6 pre-flop, that would change how the turn felt... Re-raise allin on flop. Feels nice to stack two players at once, especially shortstacks. I don't like shortstacks.

That;s the theory anyway. I would probably fold here and pick another spot when I had some reads... but i'm a little weak on the no-limit front.
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:32 PM #8 (permalink)  

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Yes, is very short to flop
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:09 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:27 PM #10 (permalink)  
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raise $5-$6 pre-flop
imo there usually isn't a good reason to open for 6bb's.
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Old 08-30-2007, 09:58 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Yes, is very short to flop
what's with this guy? this is the 2nd cryptic post i've seen.
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:32 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Yes, is very short to flop
what's with this guy? this is the 2nd cryptic post i've seen.
The clues in the name methinks. Expect 5 more lame posts followed by some spam about chips...? Just a guess
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:27 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Yes, is very short to flop
what's with this guy? this is the 2nd cryptic post i've seen.
I'm thinking he can't speak english.
 
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Old 08-31-2007, 12:13 AM #14 (permalink)  
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Yes, is very short to flop
what's with this guy? this is the 2nd cryptic post i've seen.
I'm thinking he can't speak english.
ah ha! that actually didn't even cross my mind lol. i thought everyone spoke american.
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Old 08-31-2007, 01:14 AM #15 (permalink)  
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dont you think TT+ will do this off a short stack? on a flop, i have to push over. if its a straight or set, then "nh, sir."

i'm a huge nit, and i make this shove.

heroic folds cost me a lot of money, and i think they may be costing you, as well.
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Old 08-31-2007, 02:32 AM #16 (permalink)  
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id come on my keyboard....then call.
LOL!! awesome.
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:52 AM #18 (permalink)  
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imo there usually isn't a good reason to open for 6bb's.
true. 4-5bb though, depending on what is your default play. I think 3bb is too weak though
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Old 09-01-2007, 10:24 AM #19 (permalink)  
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i thought everyone spoke american.
Noone speaks american.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:12 PM #20 (permalink)  
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4bbs pre and all you can eat on the flop. I never give short stacks credit.
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