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Old 06-02-2005, 07:13 PM     Post subject: Folded my set on the river. Good or no? #1 (permalink)  
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$100 NL Hold'em - Thursday, June 02, 15:10:35 EDT 2005
Table Table 36647 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: siena ( $114.45 )
Seat 2: carddeck ( $116.4 )
Seat 3: grtdane59 ( $95 )
Seat 4: Bandoleon ( $97.4 )
Seat 5: therubeguy ( $168 )
Seat 6: SmackinYaUp ( $245 )
Seat 7: sem3000 ( $173.11 )
Seat 9: twobigblinds ( $143.25 )
Seat 10: wey2ez ( $96.6 )
Seat 8: Casan0va_fly ( $52.35 )
Bandoleon posts small blind [$0.5].
therubeguy posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmackinYaUp [ 7d 7h ]
SmackinYaUp calls [$1].
sem3000 folds.
Casan0va_fly folds.
>You have options at Table 37038 (6 max) Table!.
twobigblinds calls [$1].
wey2ez raises [$3].
siena folds.
grtdane59 calls [$3].
Bandoleon folds.
therubeguy calls [$2].
>You have options at Table 37038 (6 max) Table!.
SmackinYaUp calls [$2].
twobigblinds calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kh, 4s, 7s ]
therubeguy checks.
SmackinYaUp bets [$13].
twobigblinds folds.
wey2ez folds.
>You have options at Table 37038 (6 max) Table!.
grtdane59 calls [$13].
therubeguy folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
SmackinYaUp bets [$20].
grtdane59 calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ 8d ]
SmackinYaUp checks.
>You have options at Table 37038 (6 max) Table!.
grtdane59 is all-In [$59]
>You have options at Table 37038 (6 max) Table!.
SmackinYaUp folds.
grtdane59 does not show cards.
grtdane59 wins $137.5
>You have options at Table 37038 (6 max) Table!.
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Old 06-02-2005, 07:20 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Why did you fold?

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Old 06-02-2005, 07:33 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I wouldn't have. Do you really think he's calling a $2 raise
with suited connectors pre-flop? He's got OK position but
I'm guessing unless he's nuts or he's Dan Negreanu he
folds.

The odds of him having a set of cowboys is too remote to
worry about.

I would call that one.

My guess he's got TPTK.
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Old 06-02-2005, 07:39 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I wouldn't have checked the river or folded. Woulda put him all in probably. I can't imagine what hand he would hold to have you beat on the river, and still make it plausible that he called all those bets along the way.
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Old 06-02-2005, 07:39 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I prolly wouldn't have checked the river unless i was planning to c/r him, which you obviously weren't. Just shows you feared the str8 and he capitalized on your aggression backing down. Even if i bet and he came over the top of me on the river i'm likely calling there. Unless he was calling you down with 88 and got lucky catching that river, i don't see another hand that plays that way he would push with there. Call.
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Old 06-02-2005, 07:39 PM #6 (permalink)  
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56s is only had you have to worry about.

Could be a big K.
Could be busted flush draw.

I think i pay off the dude.

The AI is suspicious like a busted draw, rather than a made draw. If one knows that they have the nuts then you want to make a good old value bet and get paid off (ususally).
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Old 06-02-2005, 07:49 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Why no bet on the river? If you bet and he pushes, then you can make a decision. Him just pushing after your check could be any number of hands but I think a very small percentage of those hands make a straight or higher trips.
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Old 06-02-2005, 07:49 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I don't know what to think. Im done calling huge river bets because over the last few days I do that and I get my ass kicked.
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Old 06-02-2005, 07:50 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Dammit, I always take too long to write my replies!

So um yeah... what they said.
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Old 06-02-2005, 07:59 PM #10 (permalink)  
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I think you may be playing from a bad place lately, my friend. Maybe a few days off from poker is a good idea - read some books, read over the site, but don't play. Get into a better frame of mind and come back to it. It seems like your decisions now are more informed by fear (of a bad beat, of the hidden monster) than by your instincts and poker logic. That's natural if you're in a downswing, but you have to do something about it. Playing through it may not be the road for you.

Back to this hand - the only reason I'd check the river would be to induce a bluff, which is what that all-in from him looks like to me. The only plausible hand he could have that actually puts him ahead of you is 56, or maybe a badly misplayed KK or 88. That stuff does happen, but I think it's more likely he has KQ or something like that.
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Old 06-02-2005, 08:15 PM #11 (permalink)  
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I think you may be playing from a bad place lately, my friend. Maybe a few days off from poker is a good idea - read some books, read over the site, but don't play.

Wish someone had given me this advice a week ago . Cost me a couple bills to come to that conclusion on my own.
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Old 06-02-2005, 10:02 PM #12 (permalink)  
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It's still a clear call.

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Old 06-03-2005, 03:34 AM     Post subject: Bet the river #13 (permalink)  
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Bet the river and see if he raises or goes all in and decide from there.Hopefully he didn't call with some weird suited combination that gives him the straight.

I also advise some time off as well like a day or two(as I did earlier this week).It helps,I already took down like $75 today.
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Old 06-03-2005, 03:37 AM     Post subject: Re: Bet the river #14 (permalink)  
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Bet the river and see if he raises or goes all in and decide from there.Hopefully he didn't call with some weird suited combination that gives him the straight.

I also advise some time off as well like a day or two(as I did earlier this week).It helps,I already took down like $75 today.
Checking the river is fine too in hopes of getting the guy to bite if he missed a flush draw.

I dropped a bunch of buyins today in about 45 minutes, dropped down to .5/1 NL and overbet every hand I had. (45 bucks into a 6 dollar pot with a flopped flush.) Then I went back to my normal grind a little bit happier.

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