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r8ed
Old 11-05-2005, 04:16 AM     Post subject: Folded AA for the first time in 88 hands #1 (permalink)  
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Since I've been keeping track, this is the first time I folded them. The guy was the second tightest player at this loose table besides myself. But I didn't have any post flop reads on him. Am I weak for laying them down here? How was my play? I figured I could have bet or reraised the turn, but there just seemed to be too many possibilities.

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$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, November 04, 23:51:23 EDT 2005
Table Table 65056 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: RHCPCraze ( $65.15 )
Seat 5: cwthomas00 ( $12.12 )
Seat 6: jandje ( $76.18 )
Seat 10: rickenbacker ( $61.71 )
Seat 4: littlelars ( $30.75 )
Seat 8: rbwarrior ( $25.55 )
Seat 7: ouhaan ( $6.05 )
Seat 3: Wahoo2006 ( $24.65 )
Seat 1: 2Fast2Furious ( $9.26 )
Seat 9: axxxxxx ( $24.75 )
RHCPCraze posts small blind [$0.10].
Wahoo2006 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jandje [ Ac Ad ]
littlelars calls [$0.25].
cwthomas00 calls [$0.25].
jandje raises [$1.50].
ouhaan folds.
rbwarrior folds.
axxxxxx calls [$1.50].
rickenbacker folds.
2Fast2Furious folds.
RHCPCraze folds.
Wahoo2006 folds.
littlelars folds.
cwthomas00 calls [$1.25].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, Kh, 7h ]
cwthomas00 checks.
jandje bets [$2].
axxxxxx raises [$4].
cwthomas00 folds.
jandje calls [$2].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
jandje checks.
axxxxxx bets [$7].
>You have options at Table 66530 Table!.
jandje folds.
axxxxxx does not show cards.
axxxxxx wins $19.45
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Old 11-05-2005, 04:17 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I would pot the flop and go from there.
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Old 11-05-2005, 04:20 AM #3 (permalink)  
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This hand to me would be pretty dependant on how aggressive villian is PF.

I play the flop harder. He'll let you know if he's got it already.

Edit: fnord, did you edit your response? because my "i play the flop harder" wasn't copying you. I would have sworn I read you had something about losing more money.
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Yeah, reads would make lots of things clear. If they're cronic under-betters and call a lot then I might check the flop and go from there.
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Old 11-05-2005, 04:32 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Unfortunately I didn't have much of a read. Two other players on the table were raising anything and everything preflop and post flop. They occupied my attention at that table. I was playing 4.

I should have bet the full pot. Checking the turn might have shown way too much weakness too. I just had a gut feeling that I was behind, so I layed it down.
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Old 11-05-2005, 04:37 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Well, as long as that gut feeling is a read, I say lay it down. You're certainly not going to draw out.

But if that gut feeling is the same one that says "play that 49o, you're going to hit it big!"...I don't know.
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Old 11-06-2005, 12:02 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Yeah I think a $5 bet is obviously the right play here after the flop, $2 is much too weak. If he raises you there I think a fold is the right call, although a lot of idiots get crazy when they're four-flushed in $25NL. Too risky though if you ask me.
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Old 11-06-2005, 12:07 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Yeah I think a $5 bet is obviously the right play here after the flop, $2 is much too weak. If he raises you there I think a fold is the right call, although a lot of idiots get crazy when they're four-flushed in $25NL. Too risky though if you ask me.
...that's what we have a bankroll for. I'm starting to come around to just gambling it up but maybe I'm getting lucky and/or am good about picking spots. In any case, you really would like to get it in on a safe turn here, however 3 way to the flop there is too good of a chance your opponents really hate this flop too. Hence, as second to act I'm putting down 1/2, 3/4 or often just full pot depending on the feel I have for the table.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:13 AM #9 (permalink)  
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I don't give much credit to flopped flushes... so I would probably pot the flop and 1/2 pot the turn (at least).

That being said; I have folded AA a couple of times myself in situations where I didn't feel comfortable... it IS only a pair, so if your gut said run, nothing wrong with folding...
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