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TripsChaos
Old 08-29-2007, 12:56 AM     Post subject: fold a river boat, what you think #1 (permalink)  

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Villan el Duivel is tight.

he raised me in a previous hand and showed the nuts

i dont think im beating him here, how bout you

PokerStars Game #11746889832: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/08/28 - 20:37:19 (ET)
Table 'Gudy II' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: tripschaos ($214 in chips)
Seat 2: Tenven ($117.85 in chips)
Seat 3: mind4mind ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 4: sddakoty ($21.50 in chips)
Seat 5: clifflonglll ($18.70 in chips)
Seat 6: ryguy227 ($75 in chips)
Seat 7: el Duivel ($146.20 in chips)
Seat 8: markkin ($69.45 in chips)
el Duivel: posts small blind $0.50
markkin: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tripschaos [8d 8s]
tripschaos: calls $1
Tenven: folds
mind4mind: folds
sddakoty: folds
clifflonglll: folds
ryguy227: folds
el Duivel: calls $0.50
markkin: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kd Jc Th]
el Duivel: checks
markkin: checks
tripschaos: checks
*** TURN *** [Kd Jc Th] [8c]
el Duivel: bets $3
markkin: raises $6 to $9
tripschaos: calls $9
el Duivel: calls $6
*** RIVER *** [Kd Jc Th 8c] [Tc]
el Duivel: checks
markkin: checks
tripschaos: bets $20
el Duivel: raises $55 to $75
markkin: folds
tripschaos: folds
el Duivel collected $67 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $70 | Rake $3
Board [Kd Jc Th 8c Tc]
Seat 1: tripschaos folded on the River
Seat 2: Tenven folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: mind4mind folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: sddakoty folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: clifflonglll folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ryguy227 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: el Duivel (small blind) collected ($67)
Seat 8: markkin (big blind) folded on the River
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:06 AM #2 (permalink)  
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If you felt you were beat, you were beat. On this board, I'd trust the read. Could easily go either way (straight... or tens full). Hmm... now that I notice the river completed a flush draw, and villain is STILL raising... I think he's either flush / tens full with probability towards tens full. I mean, he's a nit, right?
 
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:15 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I'm not folding here. KT/JT/9c7c beats you. That's three hands.

Depending on villain, TT raises for value pf.
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:50 AM #4 (permalink)  
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With that said I think this is a call. You said opp was tight, but was he aggressive? If he is then he may be betting a FD on turn (Acxc). If he is passive he might have Q9 and flopped a straight trying to maximize value by slowplaying.

This could also be AT, QT, T9, T8 (maybe).

There are a lot of hands that complete here and have a line like this that makes this a call.
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:01 AM #5 (permalink)  
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never ever ever ever ever fold here are you KIDDING
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:39 AM #6 (permalink)  
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If you folded I'm going to E-stab you. The real question is whether to push or not.
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:29 AM #7 (permalink)  
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I think the chance of him holding a flush are quite high. I don't think I fold this.
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:14 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Noooooooooooooooooooo! I never fold in this spot. There are too many hands that he could have that you beat (flush, str8). The only question I would ask myself is call or push. Never fold.
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:30 PM     Post subject: Why ? #9 (permalink)  

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Noooooooooooooooooooo! I never fold in this spot. There are too many hands that he could have that you beat (flush, str8). The only question I would ask myself is call or push. Never fold.
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:39 PM #10 (permalink)  
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It's incorrect to fold. The only question is whether to raise or call.
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