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Tvashtri

10-10-2005, 09:29 PM Post subject: fold QQ overpair?

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Seat 1: LoveSpatula ($62.90 in chips)
Seat 2: guywithnoear ($187 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero [QD,QH] ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: tiller10 ($73 in chips)
Seat 6: Pecwan1 ($38 in chips)
Seat 7: D0wn2theFelt ($77.20 in chips)
Seat 8: Naakka ($241.60 in chips)
Seat 9: JJDONTBLUFF ($53 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
guywithnoear posts blind ($0.50), Hero posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
tiller10 folds, Pecwan1 folds, D0wn2theFelt folds, Naakka bets $5, JJDONTBLUFF folds, LoveSpatula folds, guywithnoear folds, Hero bets $8, Naakka calls $4.

FLOP [board cards 3C,9C,7D ]
Hero bets $10, Naakka bets $30, Hero folds.

SHOWDOWN
Naakka wins $56.50.
SUMMARY
Dealer: LoveSpatula
Pot: $58.50, (including rake: $2)
LoveSpatula, loses $0
guywithnoear, loses $0.50
Hero , loses $19
tiller10, loses $0
Pecwan1, loses $0
D0wn2theFelt, loses $0
Naakka, bets $39, collects $56.50, net $17.50
JJDONTBLUFF, loses $0

Just dont know about this one. Felt like KK to me, but I just dunno.

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Tim Vecchioni

10-10-2005, 09:34 PM

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for some reason...i dont think you had q/q first of all..unless you had been at this table for awhile and had a nice read on this guy...not sure how you could lay this down...guessint its a nl 100 table and hes sitting on $241...therefor looks like a threat...and you have $100 exact guessing you just sat...i think i woulda came over the top all in here...only reason i see a raise from him there is cause he missed the flop...

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Tommydx

10-10-2005, 09:48 PM

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Yeah I think you've just thrown some money away. It's not too bad of a fold, but I can't see that raise indicating that strong of a hand.

If I was you I would've raised more pre-flop too. Maybe to $18.

bair

10-11-2005, 12:13 AM

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you need to reraise stronger preflop to help you define your opponents hand, but folding this is pretty dumb

very_sneaky

10-11-2005, 06:25 AM Post subject: i don't know

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i know this won't seem right but he is sitting at big stack at the table.. if u just came in i would think hes trying to set an example to u and thats ur time to come over the top all IF THATS UR FIRST HAND .. then again if it isn't i would consider him playing lesser hands such as 9 7 suited and catching 2 pair then i would be more careful.. but i would agree with a stronger pre flop raise but no u played it well conservative which is always good in this situation.. good fold given the information

mxiu

10-12-2005, 04:30 AM

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You min re-raised preflop, he could have a variety of hands. I think you're ahead most of the time here, seems like he raised because rags fell. Re-raise him more to see if he really has a hand. He could easily be holding 9-8, thinking you missed the flop and that his 9 is good.

silverfist

10-14-2005, 08:05 PM

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I agree with the above posters. You've got QQ, so get put in a much larger reraise preflop.

I wouldn't have folded, either. If he had AA or KK, why didn't he reraise you PF? The only thing I can think he might have is 99, TT or JJ. 99 is scary, but the other two are delicious.

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Aces

10-14-2005, 08:54 PM

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I think it's more likely 77/99 then AA/KK with that PF action. Could also be JJ/TT/AKs. With his stack for all you know it could be 97s or A9 or a complete bluff. Flip a coin, I wouldn't fell confident either way you go.

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