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Old 06-22-2006, 01:53 PM     Post subject: Fold this all day, right? #1 (permalink)  
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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $33.86
UTG+1: $345.02
UTG+2: $101.20
MP1: $125.25
MP2: $103.55
MP3: $168.30
CO: $110.15
Button: $96.50
SB: $133.35
Hero: $99

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB with A Q
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $2, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 6 Q 7 ($5.5, 3 players)
Hero bets $4, MP1 raises to $8, Hero calls.

Turn: T ($21.5, 3 players)
Hero bets $12, MP1 raises to $29, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $17 returned to MP1.

Results:
Final pot: $45.5



 
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Old 06-22-2006, 02:03 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I would really rather check/call that turn vs leading out, esspecially if you plan on folding to a raise.

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Old 06-22-2006, 02:16 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I would really rather check/call that turn vs leading out, esspecially if you plan on folding to a raise.
I see your point. Cheaper river card. I really shouldn't play before my first cup of coffee in the morning.



 
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Old 06-22-2006, 02:45 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I would really rather check/call that turn vs leading out, esspecially if you plan on folding to a raise.
I agree.

What's your line if the turn isn't a club?
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I would really rather check/call that turn vs leading out, esspecially if you plan on folding to a raise.
I agree.

What's your line if the turn isn't a club?
I think in this case it's c/f. It smelled very much like AA/KK or a set here. Maybe that's weaksauce.



 
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Old 06-22-2006, 07:57 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 1. How much will opp bet if you check here? Will he push you off/overbet or value bet?
2. If you hit he flush will he pay you off if you just push or check raise all in on the river?

If yes then i think calling $15 for opps stack assuming he actualy pays you off is a possibility here.
Im assuming missing 4 times for $15 bet and hitting and getting called all in for the rest of your stack $60~. Id have thought about that before betting the turn here.
As played i think its a close turn call actaully and not an easy fold if you think opp will pay your flush.
If you had slightly more in your stack as opp does then i think you can call here if opp calls all in with the set (if we assume him to have that)
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Old 06-22-2006, 08:49 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 If villain is in any way tight, I probably c/r ai the turn. You have like 30% equity plus fold equity and theres a little dead money.

Otherwise check/call. Leading is bad.


I would have reraise PF fwiw. I don't like letting people see the flop with position on me for 2bb.
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Old 06-22-2006, 10:00 PM #9 (permalink)  
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How about check/calling the turn? Even if villain leads for a ~PSB, implied odds here are tremendous considering villain obviously loves his hand.
 
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How about check/calling the turn? Even if villain leads for a ~PSB, implied odds here are tremendous considering villain obviously loves his hand.
Yeah, that was my mistake no. 2.

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Old 06-23-2006, 12:25 AM #11 (permalink)  
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