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08-06-2009, 04:03 AM
Post subject: fml vs loose passive
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villain is 31/2/2 over 70 hands. fold? call and call? Shove sounds awful.
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
CO ($35.30)
Hero (Button) ($100)
SB ($100.50)
BB ($100)
UTG ($151.05)
UTG+1 ($70.70)
MP1 ($87.65)
MP2 ($119.65)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A , Q
3 folds, MP2 calls $1, CO calls $1, Hero bets $5, 2 folds, MP2 calls $4, 1 fold
Flop: ($12.50) 9, A, A (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $9, MP2 calls $9
Turn: ($30.50) 10 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $22, MP2 raises $44, Hero ?
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BankItDrew
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vs loose passive i'm calling this all day then re-evaluating on river. the problem is that we have like 1/3 PSB if we call... so borderline between calling and shoving.
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he thinks he has the nuts, so shove and pray he has Ax
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Miffed22001
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call and call river shove - do you think he folds A4 here? His limp range is all about Ax and for the occasions he has AT/A( you stack him with all the rest of the Aces he has (ffs this could easily be AJ!)
Btw i prefer a bit more on every street bet size wise to let the river not quite be a pot bet shove - closer to 3/4
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ZwiFT
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Full House
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call and shove riv
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wakeup
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Straight
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Location: Oz
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why is a turn 3b so bad if he's never letting go of a Ax and never bluff raising
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Sir Pawnalot
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Full House
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by wakeup
why is a turn 3b so bad if he's never letting go of a Ax and never bluff raising
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My initial thought too. We get it in anyway we go, so why not now.
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dontezuma
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Is 99/TT in his range for a sick boat? Or is JJ- more likely, and he thinks you're FOS? Or he's raising the turn to "find out where he is"?
I lean towards shipping/calling the river, since it is possible if you shove, he folds a couple of hands that you beat... there's no bonus for "getting it in ahead" and there are very few cards that hurt you if you are.
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