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rebuyman
Old 11-23-2005, 10:00 PM     Post subject: flush OOP lime ive been using #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars Game #3138128946: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/11/23 - 17:49:39 (ET)
Table 'Gaea' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: SiberianMan ($28.05 in chips)
Seat 2: Mr_Ee_Man ($23.90 in chips)
Seat 3: rebuyman ($33.20 in chips)
Seat 4: promethius22 ($17.20 in chips)
Seat 5: BEntenman ($25.55 in chips)
Seat 6: LonghornsNo1 ($58.30 in chips)
Seat 7: nmh34ed ($31.90 in chips)
Seat 8: johnymac78 ($6.30 in chips)
Seat 9: 4Madrid ($14.35 in chips)
nmh34ed: posts small blind $0.10
johnymac78: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to rebuyman [Kh Ah]
4Madrid: calls $0.25
SiberianMan: folds
Mr_Ee_Man: calls $0.25
rebuyman: raises $1 to $1.25
promethius22: folds
BEntenman: folds
LonghornsNo1: calls $1.25
nmh34ed: folds
johnymac78: folds
4Madrid: calls $1
Mr_Ee_Man: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [3d Jh 4h]
4Madrid: checks
Mr_Ee_Man: checks
rebuyman: bets $3.50
LonghornsNo1: calls $3.50
4Madrid: folds
Mr_Ee_Man: folds
*** TURN *** [3d Jh 4h] [8h]
rebuyman: checks

how do you play these hands?
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:08 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I mix it up, sometimes I weakly bet the turn to induce a bluff, sometimes I come out firing, and sometimes I check...

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Old 11-23-2005, 10:11 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I alternate hands. Sometimes I check-call sometimes I bet medium on all streets till I hit, then turn up the heat.
Check call wins you the hand when you hit but limits the profit you can get since it looks like a draw.
Betting medium often gets a full pot or an AI called when you hit. But if you bet medium every time you will spend all your profits on draws that miss.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:38 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I bet weak and hope someone hit a lower flush or was slowplaying a set.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:49 PM #5 (permalink)  
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One thing I think you have to do is bet when you hit. Deception has some merit but it’s tough to get paid if you don’t bet. If the flush comes on the river you have to bet unless you your opponent has been betting the whole time and you are SURE he will do so even when the flush hits. I often check behind on the river when a flush hits even if I have lead the other streets.
If the flush falls on the turn I lead out. At that point he only has one check-call (the flop) to base your betting pattern on. One datum point may not be enough for him to put you on a draw.
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Old 11-24-2005, 09:07 AM #6 (permalink)  
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I like checking or a small bet here and let my opponent define his hand so I know how much I can take him for. If he checks or calls behind then a extra large river bet looks like a resteal.
I think a lot depends on the opponant and your table image. If I have been splshing around in some big pots recently or shown down some bluffs, i'm more inclined to bet out big and build it up. In this hand I think his most likely holding is TPGK so it depends on how aggressive / cautious he gets in these situations.
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Old 11-24-2005, 04:24 PM #7 (permalink)  
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In this paticular hand I think you're going to get all his chips. My reasoning for that is because if you made a continuation bet on the flop he'd going to want to reraise you with a pair of jacks. AJ may not if he's trying to see a showdown for cheap because you could have an overpair. But I think right here I'd put him on an overpair or a set or a flush draw on the flop. if either of those are the case I'd want to lead out the turn with a semi weak bet.
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Old 11-24-2005, 05:04 PM #8 (permalink)  
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While it does depend on who you're playing I would rarely check that turn.

A weak bet is generaly a good move.

If they call you bet out strongly again on the river, but don't overbet.
If they raise you either reraise, push, or call then bet the river, depending on stack sizes and reads.
If they fold they fold.
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Old 11-24-2005, 06:44 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Another thing, if they bet big or do anything that makes you suspect a set or two pair, you have to hit it hard or push. Dont give them a free shot to fill up.
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Old 11-24-2005, 10:09 PM #10 (permalink)  
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I dont know if i got the most out of him but he bet $6 and I raised to $14 and he quickly folded what he told me was AJ.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:48 PM #11 (permalink)  
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When I hit the nut flush I continue my betting. I'm hoping that my villain just hit the flush and decided to raise me. If I get raised I generally think about it for a moment then call then check the river to induce a bet.

I don't like to stop the betting because I want as much $$ in the pot as possible. If I check the nuts on the turn, there goes a lost opportunity and by the river my villain may not have may his hand. A value bet on the river after checking it through may not even be worth the call.


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