Poker Forum

Over 1,247,000 Posts!

REGISTER
Subscribe to FTR web feed
Already Registered?      Username:    Password:   Remember      Forgot Password

Poker Forum

  > 

Full Ring NL Hold'em

  > 

Flush draw lots of dead money

  
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
chewbaka
Old 08-26-2006, 09:52 PM     Post subject: Flush draw lots of dead money #1 (permalink)  
3-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 106
chewbaka
Table "Tree Top" (real money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: serenerosa ($42.25 in chips)
Seat 2: chewbaka8 ($30.10 in chips)
Seat 3: Manchester_U ($23.85 in chips)
Seat 4: sourpower ($25.00 in chips)
Seat 5: lil' T ($27.95 in chips)
Seat 6: johsun ($39.87 in chips)
Seat 7: NellDrum ($9.75 in chips)
Seat 8: Firedude436 ($55.10 in chips)
Seat 9: paddygoeasy ($12.75 in chips)
Manchester_U: Post Small Blind ($0.10)
sourpower: Post Big Blind ($0.25)
Dealing...
Dealt to chewbaka8 [ Jc ]
Dealt to chewbaka8 [ Qc ]
lil' T : Call ($0.25)
johsun : Raise ($1.10)
NellDrum: Fold
Firedude436: Fold
paddygoeasy: Call ($1.10)
serenerosa: Fold
chewbaka8: Call ($1.10)
Manchester_U: Fold
sourpower: Raise ($4)
lil' T : Fold
johsun : Call ($3.15)
paddygoeasy: Call ($3.15)
chewbaka8: Call ($3.15)
*** FLOP *** : [ Ac 9d 7c ]
sourpower: Bet ($20.75)
johsun : Call ($20.75)
paddygoeasy: Fold
chewbaka8 ??????????? A call is surely ok here? corrects potodds and lots of dead money...
Reply With Quote

Play for FREE and practice your game at...

Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!
freechus9
Old 08-26-2006, 10:03 PM #2 (permalink)  
Full House

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: IN UR BOX HAXXING UR FILEZ
Posts: 1,000
freechus9
Send a message via AIM to freechus9
Fold to the reraise PF. Implied odds are no good. I am a poo poo head.
My sig is too much for you to handle.
 
Reply With Quote
chewbaka
Old 08-26-2006, 10:14 PM #3 (permalink)  
3-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 106
chewbaka
Yup I realized that the PF call was stupid

But as played, calling 20.75 on a 79.50 pot is correct pot odds or am I missing something here?
Reply With Quote
ensign_lee
Old 08-26-2006, 11:25 PM #4 (permalink)  
ensign_lee's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The University of TEXAS at Austin
Posts: 2,237
ensign_lee
Send a message via AIM to ensign_lee
Once you get to the flop, yes. Pot odds decry call, or just push.

Get your own starcraft 2 signature at sc2sig.com
 
Reply With Quote
givememyleg
Old 08-26-2006, 11:28 PM #5 (permalink)  
givememyleg's Avatar
WHO YA GONNA CALL?!??
Administrator

Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: ISHPERMING MISHIGEN
Posts: 5,042
givememyleg is a splendid one to beholdgivememyleg is a splendid one to beholdgivememyleg is a splendid one to beholdgivememyleg is a splendid one to beholdgivememyleg is a splendid one to beholdgivememyleg is a splendid one to beholdgivememyleg is a splendid one to behold
 Gambooooooool!

Get your own badge! Click profile at the top and FTR Badge from the left nav.


"The Dragon in My Garage" by Carl Sagan
I say onto you, I've felt the dragon! I felt the touch of his tail, the breath of his fire, and I know without a shadow of a doubt that the dragon exists!
 
Reply With Quote
freechus9
Old 08-26-2006, 11:40 PM #6 (permalink)  
Full House

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: IN UR BOX HAXXING UR FILEZ
Posts: 1,000
freechus9
Send a message via AIM to freechus9
Quote:
Originally Posted by givememyleg
Gambooooooool!
I don't get it, this is clearly a -EV call. Can someone explain why it's not?
My sig is too much for you to handle.
 
Reply With Quote
benny999
Old 08-26-2006, 11:51 PM #7 (permalink)  
benny999's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,567
benny999
Send a message via AIM to benny999 Send a message via MSN to benny999
Quote:
Originally Posted by freechus9
Quote:
Originally Posted by givememyleg
Gambooooooool!
I don't get it, this is clearly a -EV call. Can someone explain why it's not?
the pot odds are lower than the odds to hit the flush (35%).
Reply With Quote
freechus9
Old 08-26-2006, 11:59 PM #8 (permalink)  
Full House

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: IN UR BOX HAXXING UR FILEZ
Posts: 1,000
freechus9
Send a message via AIM to freechus9
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny999
Quote:
Originally Posted by freechus9
Quote:
Originally Posted by givememyleg
Gambooooooool!
I don't get it, this is clearly a -EV call. Can someone explain why it's not?
the pot odds are lower than the odds to hit the flush (35%).
Got it. Forgot about the all in part.
My sig is too much for you to handle.
 
Reply With Quote
chewbaka
Old 08-29-2006, 06:31 AM #9 (permalink)  
3-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 106
chewbaka
Lets get ready to gamble!!!!!!

Table "Dolphin Point" (real money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: chewbaka8 ($29.55 in chips)
Seat 2: highriser009 ($25.00 in chips)
Seat 3: bennythekid1 ($12.52 in chips)
Seat 4: SylusStone ($14.55 in chips)
Seat 5: DonnaDonk ($25.45 in chips)
Seat 6: coolstewy ($48.65 in chips)
Seat 7: Duffman36 ($26.60 in chips)
Seat 8: jasonfast34 ($17.12 in chips)
Seat 9: wyldog ($9.75 in chips)
Seat 10: billyc2 ($6.98 in chips)
jasonfast34: Post Small Blind ($0.10)
wyldog : Post Big Blind ($0.25)
Dealing...
Dealt to chewbaka8 [ Jd ]
Dealt to chewbaka8 [ Ad ]
billyc2 : Call ($0.25)
chewbaka8: Raise ($0.50)
highriser009: Fold
bennythekid1: Raise ($0.75)
SylusStone: Fold
DonnaDonk: Fold
coolstewy: Fold
Duffman36: Call ($0.75)
jasonfast34: Fold
wyldog : Call ($0.50)
billyc2 : Call ($0.50)
chewbaka8: Call ($0.25)
*** FLOP *** : [ 9d 8d Qh ]
wyldog : Timed out
wyldog : Fold
billyc2 : Check
chewbaka8: Bet ($1.20)
bennythekid1: Raise ($11.77)
Duffman36: Raise ($22.34)
billyc2 : Fold
chewbaka8: Call ($21.14)
*** TURN *** : [ 9d 8d Qh ] [ 6d ]
chewbaka8: Bet ($6.46)
Duffman36: Call All-in ($3.51)
*** RIVER *** : [ 9d 8d Qh 6d ] [ 4d ]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $36.16 | Side pot 1: $28.16 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 9d 8d Qh 6d 4d ]
chewbaka8 bet $29.55, collected $67.27, net +$37.72 (showed hand) [ Jd Ad ] (a
flush, ace high)
highriser009 didn't bet (folded)
bennythekid1 lost $12.52 (showed hand) [ Kd Qs ] (a flush, king high)
SylusStone didn't bet (folded)
DonnaDonk didn't bet (folded)
coolstewy didn't bet (folded)
Duffman36 lost $26.60 (showed hand) [ Qc Qd ] (a flush, queen high)
jasonfast34 lost $0.10 (folded)
wyldog lost $0.75 (folded)
billyc2 lost $0.75 (folded)
Reply With Quote
DaHorror
Old 08-29-2006, 02:55 PM #10 (permalink)  
Full House

Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 616
DaHorror
Send a message via AIM to DaHorror
First one looks fine...second one is horrid all the way around...donk-raise oop preflop, donk-bet the flop, then call 'almost' allin on a draw...12 of your outs were clean but then you happened to be up against a set, so not really, but you might as well push the flop rather than call off most of your stack when you aren't folding on the turn...
Reply With Quote
Beck
Old 08-29-2006, 03:30 PM #11 (permalink)  
Beck's Avatar
Flush

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 410
Beck
I agree with Horror, horrible bet pre flop if you are going to raise, then raise. that is just ugly shit with not even that good of a starting hand especially OOP. raise 4-6 BB whenever you raise and stop fucking around. Your 1.20 bet on the flop is screaming flush draw to me. it is just asking me to re-raise you cause you are so week, and I do not want to give you pot odds on the flop.

the all in with this hand is -EV. dont do it anymore. all you have is 12 outs 4 tens and the 8 remaining diamonds. I wouold not consider the Jacks or Aces outs here. looks like you are going agains a High PP or maybe a set
-Beck
 
Reply With Quote
chewbaka
Old 08-29-2006, 04:42 PM #12 (permalink)  
3-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 106
chewbaka
Tyvm... points taken...
Reply With Quote
nutsinho
Old 08-29-2006, 05:11 PM #13 (permalink)  
nutsinho's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
Posts: 3,280
nutsinho will become famous soon enough
 12 outs in a 3way pot is good...you guys are assholes
My bankroll is the amount of money I would spend or lose before I got a job. It is calculated by adding my net worth to whatever I can borrow.
 
Reply With Quote
chewbaka
Old 08-29-2006, 05:18 PM #14 (permalink)  
3-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 106
chewbaka
I think they had no problems with the pot odds, it was right on the money. 12 clean outs = 45% to hit.

However, there were flaws in how I played the hand (min raising OOP). I really dont mind the 1.20 so called donk bet on the flop..
Reply With Quote
Reply
Latest Poker News
dlbarlowe Old 06-01-2012, 11:03 AM    White House Responds to Poker Players Alliance's Petition
After receiving a petition scripted by the Poker Players Alliance approximately eight months ago, the Obama administration recently issued a response prepared by Brian Deese, the Deputy Director of th ...

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:39 AM.

Contact Us - Archive - Top

FTR Testimonials

All content
© FlopTurnRiver.com 		Advertising  |   Partners  |   Testimonials  |   T&C  |   Contact Us  |   FTR News & Press  |   Site Map  |   Search FTR

Full Tilt  |   Titan Poker  |   UltimateBet  |   Poker Stars  |   Ladbrokes Bonus  |   Sportsbook  |   Cake Poker  

Play Texas Holdem Online, Online Texas Holdem Strategy, & Poker Forum
This is not a gambling website.