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johnny_fish
Old 11-18-2005, 02:06 PM     Post subject: Flush chaser #1 (permalink)  
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I put him on the flush draw, so I bet with nothing here.. +EV? No reads..

** Game ID 582175090 starting - 2005-11-18 13:43:16
** All Down the Line [Hold 'em] (0.25|0.50 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- Bolltrollet sitting in seat 1 with $34.50
- Nktaa sitting in seat 2 with $65.00
- johnny291281 sitting in seat 3 with $76.71
- japjap sitting in seat 4 with $75.55
- TexAce sitting in seat 5 with $69.42
- 24hrescape sitting in seat 6 with $30.21 [Dealer]
- xl82421 sitting in seat 7 with $37.45
- anders_pe sitting in seat 8 with $24.90
- MyO sitting in seat 9 with $50.85
- lase6969 sitting in seat 10 with $40.85 [Sitting out]

xl82421 posted the small blind - $0.25
anders_pe posted the big blind - $0.50
** Dealing card to johnny291281: Ace of Spades, Queen of Spades
MyO called - $0.50
Bolltrollet folded
Nktaa folded
johnny291281 raised - $2.00
japjap folded
TexAce folded
24hrescape folded
xl82421 folded
anders_pe folded
MyO called - $2.00

** Dealing the flop: 6 of Spades, King of Spades, 5 of Clubs
MyO checked
johnny291281 bet - $3.00
MyO called - $3.00

** Dealing the turn: 2 of Diamonds
MyO checked
johnny291281 bet - $5.00
MyO called - $5.00

** Dealing the river: 2 of Clubs
MyO checked
johnny291281 bet - $6.00
MyO called - $6.00
johnny291281 shows: Ace of Spades, Queen of Spades
MyO shows: Queen of Diamonds, King of Clubs
MyO wins $31.15 from the main pot

End of game 582175090
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Old 11-18-2005, 02:38 PM #2 (permalink)  
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With no reads how do you just put him on a flush draw? Out of convenience?
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Old 11-18-2005, 02:50 PM #3 (permalink)  
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He called your 4xBB raise and you don't give him credit for a K here. Why not? It looks like he has a K with a scared kicker to me. He is clearly calling you down with KTs-AK. My best guess is KTs or KJs After he calls your turn bet, you must know your are beat or he is a big fish that needs a place on your buddy list.
You did the betting for him. Don't play this hand from out of position this way. You can't gain any information on the opponent. I wouldn't suggest playing this so aggressive from OOP with no reads. You would probably lose less money letting him make the mistake of betting in a way to keep you in the hand. If you don't give him credit for the K, then check/call a reasonable flop bet, and check the turn. He may bet enough to give you odds to draw. Probably not, but this isn't the hand to guess on. And to be honest that is what you are doing here from OOP.
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Old 11-18-2005, 03:31 PM #4 (permalink)  
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My reasoning was like this: His check-call on the flop could be a better hand (K or set), or a draw (67 or 2 other spades). Even a middle pair could call my cbet here. So the check at the turn seemed weak again, so I semi-bluffed. Another call.. Now I put him on the draw; set would checkraise most of the times, K or middle pair would raise the flop.. River was blank so I thought I had odds (6/20, about 30%) to try and make the missed draw fold. Turns out opp is just passive..
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:23 PM #5 (permalink)  
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My reasoning was like this: His check-call on the flop could be a better hand (K or set), or a draw (67 or 2 other spades). Even a middle pair could call my cbet here. So the check at the turn seemed weak again, so I semi-bluffed. Another call.. Now I put him on the draw; set would checkraise most of the times, K or middle pair would raise the flop.. River was blank so I thought I had odds (6/20, about 30%) to try and make the missed draw fold. Turns out opp is just passive..
Why not check behind on the river? If he is on a draw your AQ high should hold up enough of the time to make a check more profitable than a 1/3rd pot sized bet. No better hands are folding (except maybe A5 of spadeS? thats all i can think of), and no worse ones are calling.
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