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mike2405
Old 07-16-2007, 05:45 PM     Post subject: Flush beaten? #1 (permalink)  

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No real reads on either.

Seat 1: Charlynn ($20.25 in chips)
Seat 2: Pokekunu ($12.50 in chips)
Seat 3: myhken2 ($25.47 in chips)
Seat 4: __sp__ sits out
Seat 5: Nabonov ($76.65 in chips)
Seat 6: the-tower sits out
Seat 7: BMWyeah ($40.85 in chips)
Seat 8: Hostile17 ($18.75 in chips)
Seat 9: mike2405 ($69.30 in chips)
Seat 10: Dodger015 ($34.20 in chips)
Charlynn: posts small blind $0.25
Pokekunu: posts big blind $0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to mike2405 [7h 8h]
myhken2: folds
Nabonov: folds
BMWyeah: calls $0.50
Hostile17: folds
mike2405: calls $0.50
Dodger015: calls $0.50
Charlynn: calls $0.25
Pokekunu: checks
----- FLOP ----- [Jh Qh 8d]
Charlynn: checks
Pokekunu: checks
BMWyeah: bets $1
mike2405: raises to $3.50
Dodger015: calls $3.50
Charlynn: folds
Pokekunu: folds
BMWyeah: calls $2.50
----- TURN ----- [Jh Qh 8d][5s]
BMWyeah: checks
mike2405: checks
Dodger015: bets $2
BMWyeah: calls $2
mike2405: calls $2
----- RIVER ----- [Jh Qh 8d 5s][2h]
BMWyeah: checks
mike2405: bets $10
Dodger015: calls $10
BMWyeah: raises to $20
mike2405 ???

I reckon I have dodger015 beat, otherwise I'm sure he would have raised, but I think I'm beaten by BMWyeah by the way this hand has developed.

So 1) Am I beaten?
2) Even if I think I am, do you think I have good odds to call anyway?
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Old 07-16-2007, 05:53 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Fold unless you feel BMW is raising with less than a better flush for any reason 1/4th of the time. I would fold unless I felt this player was tricky in any way.
It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
 
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Old 07-16-2007, 06:29 PM #3 (permalink)  
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wtf this is such an easy call
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Old 07-16-2007, 06:34 PM #4 (permalink)  
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you're getting 3:1 and you have a flush on a non paired board. this short stacked fish's range is much wider than a higher flush, including slowplayed straights and sets.
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:25 PM #5 (permalink)  
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wtf this is such an easy call
Slowplayed straights and sets don't typically go berzerk in a multiway pot when a flush hits.
It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
 
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Old 07-19-2007, 08:12 PM #6 (permalink)  
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River is a min-raise right?

We're getting around 5:1.

You don't think we see 2 pairs or a worse flush every now and then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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