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Old 06-20-2006, 03:46 AM     Post subject: Flopped straight in the BB #1 (permalink)  
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 MP3 didn't get to be big stack by being a donkey...

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Stack sizes:
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 7 5
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, 3 folds, 3 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: 6 8 9 ($3.5, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $3, MP3 raises to $10, Hero...



 
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Old 06-20-2006, 04:59 AM #2 (permalink)  
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It's tricky since you have the baby end if you are up against 7T or only a little ahead of JT here.

I'd say at least one of them has hit a set and the other is either on JT or flush draw (most likely UTG+1 on draw, MP3 on set of 9's or JT).

If it was heads up I'd say just call and see what the flop brings (eg 3rd diamond or paired board).

Given the comment about MP3 I'd be hesitant about pushing here since he will most likely have a hand he will come along with but you also have to worry about UTG+1 still to act on the raise so I'd probably push here to try and isolate the set and pray for them getting no help.

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Old 06-21-2006, 08:59 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Tricky situation. If u r not going to fold you have to decided
what to do? I would try to keep pot small and seek cheap
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Old 06-21-2006, 01:19 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Tricky situation. If u r not going to fold you have to decided
what to do? I would try to keep pot small and seek cheap
showdown.
that's beyond weak.

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Old 06-21-2006, 01:23 PM #5 (permalink)  
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It's tricky since you have the baby end if you are up against 7T or only a little ahead of JT here.

I'd say at least one of them has hit a set and the other is either on JT or flush draw (most likely UTG+1 on draw, MP3 on set of 9's or JT).

If it was heads up I'd say just call and see what the flop brings (eg 3rd diamond or paired board).

Given the comment about MP3 I'd be hesitant about pushing here since he will most likely have a hand he will come along with but you also have to worry about UTG+1 still to act on the raise so I'd probably push here to try and isolate the set and pray for them getting no help.
OK, you're UTG and flop two pair. No two pair would possibly lead pot?
Ok, you're UTG and flop top pair. No top pair would possibly lead pot?
Overpairs like TT, Flush draw, straight draw, set, straight+flush draw + overs. All these hands could lead at this pot.

MP3 could have a set, two pair, the made straight, straight + flush draw + overs. Lots of hands that dont mind raising here especially if he's not a passive fool.

Raising is the only option for you I feel. There are too many scare cards out there for you to try and get tricky and just flat call.

3-bet him to 31 bucks.

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Old 06-21-2006, 01:27 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Id raise it and feel pretty good about myself if he just called.

If he pushed id probbaly cry, then call, then win alot more often than i expected.
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Old 06-21-2006, 01:28 PM #7 (permalink)  
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...I'd probably push here to try and isolate the set and pray for them getting no help...


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...up against 7T...



 
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Old 06-21-2006, 01:31 PM #8 (permalink)  
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...I'd probably push here to try and isolate the set and pray for them getting no help...


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...up against 7T...
Am I to take this to mean that MP3, the not-donkey, called with 7T preflop?

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Old 06-21-2006, 01:35 PM #9 (permalink)  
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...I'd probably push here to try and isolate the set and pray for them getting no help...


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...up against 7T...
Am I to take this to mean that MP3, the not-donkey, called with 7T preflop?


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Old 06-21-2006, 01:38 PM #10 (permalink)  
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This is why you raise 75o preflop.

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You mean the revolver, sir?
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Old 06-21-2006, 01:48 PM #11 (permalink)  
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This is why you raise 75o preflop.
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Old 06-21-2006, 01:58 PM     Post subject: Re: Flopped straight in the BB #12 (permalink)  
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MP3 didn't get to be big stack by being a donkey...
Then he must have gotten it by flopping coolers...

I make it $25 to go and hope to either get it ai on the flop or push turn.

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Old 06-21-2006, 02:03 PM #13 (permalink)  
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This is why you raise 75o preflop.
POTD

btw, how's the $25NL grind going? Or have you moved up to $50NL yet?
I took a shot at 50 and ran bleh, Im at the inbetween phase where the roll is almost there but not quite.

Things are running well, the only problem is I run white hot during the night when everyone plays, but its like bleeding rocks during the day when I get most of my play in and Im winning at like 4ptbb/100. I'd play during the night, but my diet is so regimented that i don't want to change it one bit. So i have to be up at 8:30 for breakfast.

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:05 PM #14 (permalink)  
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:08 PM #15 (permalink)  
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The trouble with limp happy tables and unraised pots is...
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:22 PM #16 (permalink)  
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I took a shot at 50 and ran bleh, Im at the inbetween phase where the roll is almost there but not quite.

Things are running well, the only problem is I run white hot during the night when everyone plays, but its like bleeding rocks during the day when I get most of my play in and Im winning at like 4ptbb/100. I'd play during the night, but my diet is so regimented that i don't want to change it one bit. So i have to be up at 8:30 for breakfast.
Yeah, I hate the diurnal variation thing. I'm trying to log hands on Absolute to clear bonus but I play in the morning a lot and getting a decent table is like pulling teeth, so I end up on Party where the fishing is always good. Too bad you're banned from there (can't you open a new account?).



 
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:23 PM #17 (permalink)  
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Tricky situation. If u r not going to fold you have to decided
what to do? I would try to keep pot small and seek cheap
showdown.
yuck. He has the second nuts here and T7 is unlikely.


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MP3 could have a set, two pair, the made straight, straight + flush draw + overs. Lots of hands that dont mind raising here especially if he's not a passive fool.

Raising is the only option for you I feel. There are too many scare cards out there for you to try and get tricky and just flat call.

3-bet him to 31 bucks.
this is good advice.
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:33 PM #18 (permalink)  
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I took a shot at 50 and ran bleh, Im at the inbetween phase where the roll is almost there but not quite.

Things are running well, the only problem is I run white hot during the night when everyone plays, but its like bleeding rocks during the day when I get most of my play in and Im winning at like 4ptbb/100. I'd play during the night, but my diet is so regimented that i don't want to change it one bit. So i have to be up at 8:30 for breakfast.
Yeah, I hate the diurnal variation thing. I'm trying to log hands on Absolute to clear bonus but I play in the morning a lot and getting a decent table is like pulling teeth, so I end up on Party where the fishing is always good. Too bad you're banned from there (can't you open a new account?).
i even opened one "for" my father with permission and all his info (a neteller tied to his bank account) and they called him to ask him his password, which he did not know.

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:36 PM #19 (permalink)  
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yuck. He has the second nuts here and T7 is unlikely.
Yes, my little brain said, "Well, I'm only beat by T7 here...pffft...I mean, how likely is that?"



 
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:42 PM #20 (permalink)  
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yuck. He has the second nuts here and T7 is unlikely.
Yes, my little brain said, "Well, I'm only beat by T7 here...pffft...I mean, how likely is that?"
so you were up against T7? Shit happens, move on to the next hand.
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:45 PM #21 (permalink)  
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:54 PM #22 (permalink)  
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I would have pushed and cursed my luck.

T7 outside of the blinds? LMAO.....
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:58 PM #23 (permalink)  
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 The best advice on this hand would be to lead the flop.

Lead the flop.

As played, looks like a mandatory 3-bet.
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Old 06-21-2006, 09:51 PM #24 (permalink)  
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The best advice on this hand would be to lead the flop.
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Old 06-21-2006, 10:05 PM #25 (permalink)  
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Hero reraises to $30 on the flop and looks to push a non diamond turn.

Money money money money...............
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