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Clar17y
Old 08-23-2007, 02:34 AM     Post subject: Flopped set against overpair and possible TPTK? #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars Game #11638918365: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/08/22 - 22:27:47 (ET)
Table 'Beltrovata' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: D0nkitup ($24.50 in chips)
Seat 2: wulmpie82 ($47.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Johnny2Time ($15.90 in chips)
Seat 4: eltiagoloko ($13.70 in chips)
Seat 5: Clar17y ($33.65 in chips)
Seat 6: Only Smitty ($17.90 in chips)
Seat 7: nfldbunker ($9 in chips)
Seat 8: PRbigFish ($26.35 in chips)
Seat 9: max powers12 ($22.80 in chips)
eltiagoloko: posts small blind $0.10
Clar17y: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Clar17y [Tc Td]
Only Smitty: folds
nfldbunker: folds
nfldbunker leaves the table
PRbigFish: raises $0.50 to $0.75
max powers12: folds
D0nkitup: folds
wulmpie82: calls $0.75
Johnny2Time: folds
eltiagoloko: calls $0.65
Clar17y: raises $1.50 to $2.25
PRbigFish: folds
wulmpie82: calls $1.50
Dratj joins the table at seat #7
eltiagoloko: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [Qh 2d Ts]
eltiagoloko: checks
Clar17y: bets $2
wulmpie82: calls $2
eltiagoloko: calls $2
*** TURN *** [Qh 2d Ts] [7h]
eltiagoloko: checks
Clar17y: bets $4.50
wulmpie82: calls $4.50
eltiagoloko said, "AA?"
Clar17y said, "nope"
eltiagoloko: raises $4.95 to $9.45 and is all-in
Clar17y: raises $6.55 to $16
wulmpie82: folds
*** RIVER *** [Qh 2d Ts 7h] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
eltiagoloko: shows [Kh Kc] (a pair of Kings)
Clar17y: shows [Tc Td] (three of a kind, Tens)
Clar17y collected $35.10 from pot

Was it better to call the all-in on the turn and then bet out on the river? I re-raised pre-flop here to get HU as i was OOP, turns out if i read my notes on players i would've smooth called as they all had low VPIP and original raiser had 3.4% PFR.
Turns out original raiser folded and other two called and this happened... lol did i extract maximum value?
Looking over it, maybe flop bet was a bit weak?

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Old 08-23-2007, 07:57 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I'm more interested in how you'd play the hand had you not flopped a set.
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:14 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Well after raising i noticed the VPIP of the small blind was ridiculously low, like 5.6%,and if the flop came all low cards i think he'd have checked and i've have led out on flop/turn maybe slowed down by the river and checked it.

If it'd come up with the board being the same but the 10 a 9 for example, i'd probably have led out then given up when both called the flop lol...

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Old 08-23-2007, 08:14 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 the reraise size pre is bad. either flat call or make it $5.50 to go. Flop bet is week also. When you hit a big hand like this bet out big so you get more $$$ in the pot.
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:26 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I like the somewhat small bet on the flop. The set is disguised and it keeps KK and possibly AQ in the hand.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:21 PM #6 (permalink)  
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As it happened i think those were both the hands the two others had, but isn't an overpair calling a large bet here?

Personally if i had KK in this position, i'd raise the flop for information and think very hard about calling a push or sizable re-raise which usually indicates two-pair/set in my experience.

I probably could've got away with a bigger bet on the flop. Saying the pre-flop raise was bad, that means i should've played the 10s for set value only?

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