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Old 03-03-2007, 06:11 PM     Post subject: Flopped flush with SF draw #1 (permalink)  
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Not many hands with villain, he is 28/4/2 over about 40 hands or so. Super standard 3/bet or push?

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preflop: 7 8 ($1.5, 9 players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls $1, MP3 folds, CO calls $1, BTN folds, SB folds, BB checks

Flop: Q 6 9 ($3.5, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, CO calls $3, BB folds

Turn: Q 6 9 [7] ($9.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $6,CO raises to $16, Hero .......
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Old 03-03-2007, 07:46 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 there alot of higher flushes out there, but this may just be a AdQx TPTK/FD type hand. I would just flat call the turn and lead out the river for $25
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Old 03-04-2007, 12:59 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 call lead river, please fold to a raise of any kind. If you raised this preflop it would be so much easier to get it all in and go 'meh' under flush
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Old 03-04-2007, 08:20 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Why not raise turn? A river bet is going to be just as scary as an equivalent turn raise on a three tone board, so don't give the free card. (or get Ad to get money in BEFORE he misses and loses hope)
 
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Old 03-04-2007, 08:20 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Why not raise turn? A river bet is going to be just as scary as an equivalent turn raise on a three suit board, so don't give the free card. (or get Ad to get money in BEFORE he misses and loses hope)
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Old 03-04-2007, 09:03 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 i think call/ lead river is a weak line also, but when you consider the alternative it is a choice between two bad options.

Considering villan called on the flop and now is raising the turn, it seems quite likely he is holding Ad-xd, or some other higher flush hand. Sets and straights probably wouldn't play this way also. Ax-Qd is the only other hand i would think would play this way, and its the only hand you are probably ahead of.

Call turn lead river will probably cost us ~$30.

Raise turn costs us +$30, not to mention any bet on the river

Call turn lead river is best because our river lead also serves as a block bet, and we know if he raises over that we are almost always beat. Folding on the river becomes easier, as well as the overall play of the hand.

How do you play the river if he called your turn raise?
1). Check/ fold?
2). Bet, get raised, then fold?
3). Bet, get called and lose to a higher flush?

I don't think he is ever folding on the turn either.
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Old 03-04-2007, 09:10 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Okay, cardsman raises to $46..........

Villain pushes.
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Old 03-04-2007, 09:29 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 call the turn, your behind a lot, but the pot isnt huge so we can bet/fold the river. Also, you need a solid read to fold to this action out right IMO.

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Why not raise turn? A river bet is going to be just as scary as an equivalent turn raise on a three suit board, so don't give the free card. (or get Ad to get money in BEFORE he misses and loses hope)
Nothing worse calls and leading the river is cheaper. Adx doesnt play like this so 3 betting is spew.
It would be silly to go for a c/c river line when we figure opp to have a strong hand here a lot.
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Old 03-04-2007, 09:39 PM #9 (permalink)  
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I agree with you Miffed after looking at the hand when I was done playing. My eyes got big because OMG I FLOPPED A FLUSH AND I CAN GET A STR8 FLUSH!!!1111!!!ONE!!!!111ONE!!!!

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Old 03-05-2007, 07:26 AM #10 (permalink)  
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 Its an easy place to spew in a limped pot to be honest. We like our hand.
Saying that, if you had raised preflop and the action had been a little different due to raised pot, id be imploring you to shove it all in.
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