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Ash256
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10-01-2006, 02:01 PM
Post subject: Flopped flush, regular tricky situation.
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I'd been at the table for one orbit, only had 8 hands on villain, so no reads.
This is a situation that comes up regularly for me, and it's one that I struggle to cope with.
Ignore the min-raise, my virus-scan was updating automatically (which kills the CPU), and I was about to get timed out thanks to it, I just had to somehow get a raise in... Ideally, I would've popped it to .25.
Starting a new hand (#439135698)
Texas Holdem NL $0.02/$0.04 Full Ring
Seat 1: Silky2468 ( $2.56 )
Seat 2: vodka66 ( $1.61 )
Seat 3: Resistance ( $4.70 )
Seat 4: lildeven ( $0.38 )
Seat 6: ctrybratts ( $1.86 )
Seat 7: jacksandkings ( $0.96 )
Seat 8: bigsando ( $2.48 )
Seat 9: limpeduzu ( $2.51 )
ctrybratts posts Small Blind $0.02
jacksandkings posts Big Blind $0.04
Your cards [Resistance]
2 folds
Silky2468 calls $0.04
1 folds
Resistance calls $0.04
lildeven calls $0.04
ctrybratts calls $0.02
jacksandkings checks
Dealing Flop 
ctrybratts checks
jacksandkings checks
Silky2468 bets $0.04
Resistance raises $0.08
lildeven folds
ctrybratts folds
jacksandkings folds
Silky2468 raises $0.40
Resistance raises $1.44
Silky2468 goes All-in $2.08
Resistance calls $1
This is a situation which is always difficult. I played 67s in MP because I have a big edge postflop against these players, therefore I see no reason to throw away perfectly playable hands against them. In fact, I'm only at 4NL because I need to get my bankroll going again after a huge downswing.
The problem with this situation is that I'm not actually beating that much, and I want to learn more about this situation (that comes up fairly regularly) before I move up to 20NL.
The thing is, I may have flopped a flush, but what actually am I beating here that I could play for stacks with? And I'd like to be talking about all low stakes (up to 50NL) here, as that's where I aspire to be at in a few months.
Generally, I'm beating a set, maybe a very stupid 2 pair, and as long shots, the Ac (maybe with top pair) and 23/34s, but am I beating them regularly enough to play for stacks with a weak flush? I'm not sure I am.
Any thoughts/input appreciated.
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MiJ
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The problem with this situation is that I'm not actually beating that much
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your actually beating alot of hands here...at this level im pretty sure most players stack off with Ac/Kc/Qc.. all sets , overs,2 pair ... etc.etc..
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Ash256
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Yeah, of course, but what about higher up, which is mainly what I'm aiming at...
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Halv
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Try to get all in with flopped flushes (using both hole cards) at low stakes games up to and including 200NL unless you have reads on opponents that say otherwise.
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takesix
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10-03-2006, 03:55 AM
Post subject: Re: Flopped flush, regular tricky situation.
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Minraise sucks. Gives him odds on his higher single club to hit.
After the re-raise just shove. Hell at 4NL I'd just shove the flop. Did it twice at 25NL last night, won stacks both times.
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Ship It
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Halv
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10-03-2006, 04:04 AM
Post subject: Re: Flopped flush, regular tricky situation.
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Originally Posted by takesix
Minraise sucks. Gives him odds on his higher single club to hit.
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Originally Posted by Ash256
Ignore the min-raise, my virus-scan was updating automatically (which kills the CPU), and I was about to get timed out thanks to it, I just had to somehow get a raise in.
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I agree with your conclusion though. Definitely get it in asap.
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I just finished a session @ 50NL and flopped a set on a board with two clubs. 3 players in the hand with lost of betting. One guy called my all in (he should have known very easily he was drawing to a club) with TPTK flush draw.
It happens at all levels between yours and 50NL. You are beating a lot of hands, many of which will call off their stack against your flush. At these limits especially, get it all in sooner than later.
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Ash256
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Cheers for the sound advice, guys, much appreciated.
Just for the sake of it, he had :Kc::Qc:, but I hit the on the turn and one-outed him. It was fun.
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Halv
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Poker is easy!
(or RIGGED if youre one of those)
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Originally Posted by Ash256
Cheers for the sound advice, guys, much appreciated.
Just for the sake of it, he had :Kc::Qc:, but I hit the  on the turn and one-outed him. It was fun.
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Very nice Ash
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