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Irisheyes
Old 03-02-2006, 08:38 PM     Post subject: Flopped flush gets difficult on me #1 (permalink)  
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Kara is the tightest mofo you ever did see. Good player postflop. Mainly a set farmer though.


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Hand #221755838 at table: Table TH 632
Started: Thu Mar 02 21:28:29 2006

omeree is at seat 1 with 30.55
nizzor1 is at seat 2 with 143.00
Vital is at seat 3 with 71.25
ponty is at seat 4 with 58.00
dvdsamen is at seat 5 with 25.55
Kara Jean is at seat 6 with 99.97
All-in4Fun is at seat 7 with 95.00
FirePhil is at seat 8 with 68.40
tomifgsd is at seat 9 with 76.15
Golfer2005 is at seat 10 with 68.85

Golfer2005 posts the large blind 1.00
tomifgsd posts the small blind 0.50

All-in4Fun: 6d, 8d

Pre-flop:

omeree: Call 1.00
nizzor1: Fold
Vital: Fold
ponty: Call 1.00
dvdsamen: Fold
Kara Jean: Call 1.00
All-in4Fun: Call 1.00
FirePhil: Fold
tomifgsd: Fold
Golfer2005: Check

Pot: 5
Flop (Board: 2d, Qd, Ad):

Golfer2005: Check
omeree: Check
ponty: Check
Kara Jean: Bet 4.00
All-in4Fun: Raise 10.00
Golfer2005: Fold
omeree: Fold
ponty: Fold
Kara Jean: Call 10.00

Pot: 25
Turn (Board: 2d, Qd, Ad, 5d):

Kara Jean: Bet 12.00
All-in4Fun: Call 12.00

Pot: 50
River (Board: 2d, Qd, Ad, 5d, As):

Kara Jean: Bet 24.00
All-in4Fun: Fold
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Old 03-02-2006, 08:56 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Don't call the turn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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Old 03-02-2006, 09:09 PM #3 (permalink)  
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if your not willing to call the river bet dont call the turn bet.
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Old 03-02-2006, 09:44 PM #4 (permalink)  
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if your not willing to call the river bet dont call the turn bet.
Why?
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He doesnt have a chance to improve his hand, the villian has bet on every street so is likely to bet on the river, so why would he call a turn bet when he has no chance to improve his hand with the villian likely to bet the river?
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Good answer...
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Don't call the turn.
Because you give him credit for what range on the flop?
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He doesnt have a chance to improve his hand, the villian has bet on every street so is likely to bet on the river, so why would he call a turn bet when he has no chance to improve his hand with the villian likely to bet the river?
I think there's a chance he checks that river if it doesn't pair the board. I don't have a chance to improve but I can and did dis-improve. Is that a word?
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Don't call the turn.
Because you give him credit for what range on the flop?
Calling will just put us in the same difficult spot on the river with increased stakes. A raise might get a better hand to fold or buy a showdown against a skeptical player both at a comperable price tag to calling down.

Folding is reasonable too.
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He doesnt have a chance to improve his hand, the villian has bet on every street so is likely to bet on the river, so why would he call a turn bet when he has no chance to improve his hand with the villian likely to bet the river?
Because how much he bets might be good information.
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Old 03-03-2006, 09:04 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Don't call the turn.
Because you give him credit for what range on the flop?
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Kara is the tightest mofo you ever did see.
Doesn't make much a difference what range you think on the flop. Given the read, that range is going to change a lot on the turn.
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Old 03-03-2006, 10:07 AM #12 (permalink)  
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Looking at this hand again, I think a turn call is fine if you will push any river.
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Old 03-03-2006, 11:02 AM #13 (permalink)  
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I was thinking that considering his tightness, the fact that he limped preflop and that the Ad flopped, he cant be that confident in his diamond if he has one or in his set if I call the turn.

When the board paired on the river, one of these options is gone though.
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