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TerryToma
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08-16-2006, 05:20 AM
Post subject: flopped flush with 76, (line check).
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Not quite sure what I was thinking except OMG Flush! I was scared of the pair on the board on the turn, perhaps I shouldve folded to the RR. If it hadnt pair I might have shoved to his rr. I had the villain tagged as a good player, but couldnt bring myself to lay this down. Any suggestions?
Villain was 30/5.
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Pot Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.25
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $29.40
TerryToma: $35.70
MP1: $30.60
MP2: $4.60
CO: $23.20
Button: $26.25
SB: $30.25
BB: $20.70
Pre-flop: (8 players) TerryToma is UTG+1 with 7 6
UTG calls, TerryToma calls, 3 folds, Button calls, SB (poster) checks, BB folds.
Flop: 2 8 4 ($1.5, 4 players)
SB bets $0.5, UTG calls, TerryToma raises to $2.05, Button calls, 2 folds.
Turn: 2 ($6.6, 2 players)
TerryToma bets $6.35, Button raises to $12.7, TerryToma calls.
River: 9 ($32, 2 players)
TerryToma checks, Button is all-in $11.25, TerryToma calls.
Results:
Final pot: $54.5
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takesix
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08-16-2006, 05:30 AM
Post subject: Re: flopped flush with 76, (line check).
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Fold to the turn minraise. Your hand isn't improving and villain is screaming that his is better. Believe him.
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fjuanl
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the turn raise is really scary. youve already represented a ton of strength and he comes out raising you on the turn. he has me convinced for an ace high flush or fh
i fold pf though. in position limping is ok
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zook
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Since you have villain tagged as a good player you should find a fold to the turn min-raise. He's obviously not worried about the flush.
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jacbmw
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His line screams flush (to me), which you have got to assume is above yours.
I just cant see him limping 88 on the button, with two callers. If you say he is good he surely would be trying to isolate with 88.
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MikeJee
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I agree, based on his stats and his turn min. RR (min rr usually spells a big hand) I'm out.
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givememyleg
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WHO YA GONNA CALL?!??
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You don't always have to make a psb.
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jacbmw
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Absolutly, i agree. This is the perfect situation where your really need to control the size of the pot. This needs to be the priority throughout the hand.
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TerryToma
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by jacbmw
His line screams flush (to me), which you have got to assume is above yours.
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Lol, he could have 5d3d! Well read, you get a gold star he had Qd9d
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TerryToma
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by givememyleg
You don't always have to make a psb.
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What a good way to play this, then? I usually try and lead when I flop something good in Pot-limit, as it is necessary to build a pot..
What size turn-bet would be best? I guess I was thinking the guy had a higher diamond, and want to keep him from drawing cheaply, so I bet pot. Would 2/3rds be better? Or should I just have checked seeing that the board paired? I guess the real question is what to do on the turn.
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jacbmw
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Thanks for the star man, i will add it to the collection. lol.
I think you can gain the same information from a 1/2 pot bet. Any lower and his raise will be masked by steals etc from him raising for other reasons (not just for value).
2/3 and above you are still building the pot very quickly.
With the turn, and your low flush, you are aiming to get to showdown with out the all-in. If you manage to do this you have succeeded in my books.
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