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Rockymv

05-26-2006, 12:14 AM Post subject: FIXED: Line Check 950

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EDIT: OK sorry, this is the hand I meant to post.

How's my line? The turn call is probably pretty pointless huh?

POKERSTARS GAME #5050479813: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/05/25 - 18:40:36 (ET)
Table 'Theotes' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: K10thebeast ($22.45 in chips)
Seat 2: JACKSINHOLE ($26.15 in chips)
Seat 3: wkrdixon ($35.35 in chips)
Seat 4: Rockymv ($24.50 in chips)
Seat 5: GuTTeNBeRGeD ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: venomsnake ($28.90 in chips)
Seat 7: luckeeduckee ($25 in chips)
Seat 8: irfeld ($24.15 in chips)
Seat 9: Masteroid ($8.90 in chips)
Rockymv: posts small blind $0.10
GuTTeNBeRGeD: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rockymv [9h 5c]
venomsnake: calls $0.25
luckeeduckee: folds
irfeld: folds
Masteroid: calls $0.25
K10thebeast: calls $0.25
JACKSINHOLE: calls $0.25
wkrdixon: folds
Rockymv: calls $0.15
GuTTeNBeRGeD: checks
*** FLOP *** [3d 9s 5s]
Rockymv: bets $1.50
GuTTeNBeRGeD: folds
venomsnake: calls $1.50
Masteroid: calls $1.50
K10thebeast: calls $1.50
JACKSINHOLE: folds
*** TURN *** [3d 9s 5s] [7s]
Rockymv: checks
venomsnake: bets $2.50
Masteroid: calls $2.50
K10thebeast: calls $2.50
Rockymv: calls $2.50
*** RIVER *** [3d 9s 5s 7s] [3c]
Rockymv: checks
venomsnake: bets $6
Masteroid: calls $4.65 and is all-in
K10thebeast: raises $6 to $12
Rockymv: folds
venomsnake: raises $12.65 to $24.65 and is all-in
K10thebeast: calls $6.20 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
venomsnake: shows [Js 8s] (a flush, Jack high)
K10thebeast: shows [2s As] (a flush, Ace high)
K10thebeast collected $25.75 from side pot
Masteroid: mucks hand
K10thebeast collected $29.95 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $58.55 Main pot $29.95. Side pot $25.75. | Rake $2.85
Board [3d 9s 5s 7s 3c]
Seat 1: K10thebeast showed [2s As] and won ($55.70) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: JACKSINHOLE folded on the Flop
Seat 3: wkrdixon (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Rockymv (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 5: GuTTeNBeRGeD (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: venomsnake showed [Js 8s] and lost with a flush, Jack high
Seat 7: luckeeduckee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: irfeld folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Masteroid mucked [Ah 3s]

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Halv

05-26-2006, 01:40 AM

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Looks ok to me. I might reraise preflop, but calling is ok. I might check-fold flop, but leading is ok. I might fire a second barrel on turn, but check-folding is ok.

Lots of options, I think your choice is the best one without reads.

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05-26-2006, 02:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HalvSame

Check/fold the flop? Id be hardpressed to find an opponent who any raise means qq+, there are some, but the majority of the time you dont need a set to win this.

I think the flop is fine, but I may lead the turn. Against semi-thinking players a solid bet on the flop followed by a check on the turn when an over hits means weakness and they will bet. I think Id bet the turn and check/fold the river if the turn was called.

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05-26-2006, 02:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy-akb

Check/fold the flop? Id be hardpressed to find an opponent who any raise means qq+, there are some, but the majority of the time you dont need a set to win this.

Absolutely true.
However, I can see opp holding lots of hands that will call my flop bet and leave me scratching my head on turn. I rarely want to take my JJ to showdown unimproved.

After thinking it about it, because of this I probably lead turn more often than not here.

Edit: Check-raising the flop is also an option.

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05-26-2006, 04:18 AM

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Hey Rocky. You posted the same hand a little while ago. Did you mean to post a different one?

In any case, my advice has changed, PUSH THE TURN.

zook

05-26-2006, 05:42 PM

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I fold pre-flop. With four limpers I might overbet the pot on the flop ($2? $2.50?) but I don't think a pot-sized bet is bad. I agree that you should fold the turn.

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05-26-2006, 05:48 PM

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I never even complete the blinds with unsuited garbage like this, but if you think these guys are bad enough to pay you off if you hit a monster, I guess it's OK.

Post-flop is fine, and I'd go ahead and call on the turn. It's cheap, you're closing the action, and you're getting more than good enough implied odds to draw to the full house. As you can see these guys didn't give a shit that the board paired on the river so you would have won a huge pot if you'd made your full house.

zook

05-26-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mcatdog

Post-flop is fine, and I'd go ahead and call on the turn. It's cheap, you're closing the action, and you're getting more than good enough implied odds to draw to the full house. As you can see these guys didn't give a shit that the board paired on the river so you would have won a huge pot if you'd made your full house.

Good points. I like the turn call now. I have to remember to think about this.

Rockymv

05-26-2006, 06:01 PM

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thx guys.

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05-26-2006, 06:31 PM

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ugh, fold 95o preflop

other then that, it's ok

Rockymv

05-26-2006, 07:02 PM

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i thought completing with trash when there are enough people in the pot was acceptable in ring....guess not.

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05-26-2006, 07:30 PM

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eh 95o is the epitome of trash. if i can flop a straight flush w/ it i usually complete

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05-26-2006, 09:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockymv

i thought completing with trash when there are enough people in the pot was acceptable in ring....guess not.

sure it's acceptable

undoubtedly -ev though

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