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BIGandRICH

08-26-2005, 04:22 PM Post subject: Five NL50 hands

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Hand 1
POKERSTARS GAME #2426634102: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/08/26 - 11:11:16 (ET)
Table 'Silesia' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Biff ($12.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Stag Man ($19.60 in chips)
Seat 3: ManlyMan ($52.20 in chips)
Seat 4: Scott Owen ($76.85 in chips)
Seat 5: LouieTheBook ($66.80 in chips)
Seat 6: doc3232 ($21.50 in chips)
Seat 7: 90 Corvette ($86.05 in chips)
Seat 9: howley22 ($26.50 in chips)
LouieTheBook: posts small blind $0.25
doc3232: posts big blind $0.50
marcsavard27: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scott Owen [:Qh: :Ac:]
90 Corvette: raises $1.50 to $2
howley22: calls $2
Biff: folds
Stag Man: folds
ManlyMan has timed out
ManlyMan: folds
ManlyMan is sitting out
Scott Owen: calls $2
LouieTheBook: folds
doc3232: folds
*** FLOP *** [

]
90 Corvette: bets $3
howley22: folds
Scott Owen: calls $3
*** TURN *** [

] [:Js:]
90 Corvette: bets $5
Scott Owen: raises $15 to $20
90 Corvette: folds
Scott Owen collected $21.65 from pot
Scott Owen: shows [:Qh: :Ac:] (high card Ace)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $22.75 | Rake $1.10
Board [7c 5c 2h Js]
Seat 1: Biff folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Stag Man folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ManlyMan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Scott Owen (button) collected ($21.65)
Seat 5: LouieTheBook (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: doc3232 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: 90 Corvette folded on the Turn
Seat 9: howley22 folded on the Flop

the villain is tight, i rekon he had AK or AQ... is this a good play? cold call the flop with intent to raise turn big whatever shows(if he bets weakly)? Also the show, because he was aware and i though he might pay me off later, unfortunately he wasnt in the hand where i hit set Q's.

Hand 2
POKERSTARS GAME #2426737448: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/08/26 - 11:39:05 (ET)
Table 'Seppina' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Scott Owen ($65.60 in chips)
Seat 2: LiquorBox ($88.80 in chips)
Seat 3: setnmyways ($35.40 in chips)
Seat 4: pk420 ($40.95 in chips)
Seat 5: 90 Corvette ($47.15 in chips)
Seat 6: smuek ($53.85 in chips)
Seat 7: CrookedPaul ($70.25 in chips)
Seat 8: nextstop ($55.35 in chips)
Seat 9: Mr_Allan ($57.05 in chips)
CrookedPaul: posts small blind $0.25
nextstop: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scott Owen [:Js: :Jc:]
Mr_Allan: folds
Scott Owen: calls $0.50
LiquorBox: folds
LiquorBox is sitting out
setnmyways: folds
pk420: calls $0.50
90 Corvette: folds
smuek: folds
CrookedPaul: folds
nextstop: checks
*** FLOP *** [:Ks: :Qh:

]
nextstop: checks
Scott Owen: checks
pk420: bets $0.50
nextstop: folds
nextstop leaves the table
Scott Owen: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [:Ks: :Qh:

] [

]
Scott Owen: checks
pk420: bets $0.50
Scott Owen: calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [:Ks: :Qh:

] [:Kc:]
Chip Tycoon joins the table at seat #8
Scott Owen: checks
pk420: bets $1
Scott Owen: raises $5 to $6
pk420: folds
LiquorBox has returned
Scott Owen collected $5.50 from pot
Scott Owen: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.75 | Rake $0.25
Board [Ks Qh 9d 5d Kc]
Seat 1: Scott Owen collected ($5.50)
Seat 2: LiquorBox folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: setnmyways folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: pk420 folded on the River
Seat 5: 90 Corvette folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: smuek (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: CrookedPaul (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: nextstop (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Mr_Allan folded before Flop (didn't bet)

flop call a pretty bad idea perhaps? considering i dont have position, and i dont have any player style read. But i find min bets to be such a weak thing to do and i was fairly sure i could run over him later. When he did it again on the turn i thought i deffinately could get the pot. So i raise the river to steal.. should i have bet out rather than check/raise?

Hand 3 - set slow play
POKERSTARS GAME #2418384728: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/08/25 - 05:40:57 (ET)
Table 'Alagasta' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: chrome1 ($49.80 in chips)
Seat 2: Nepomuk1805 ($18.25 in chips)
Seat 3: SthernMan54 ($46.50 in chips)
Seat 4: junior07 ($23.15 in chips)
Seat 5: Scott Owen ($53.55 in chips)
Seat 6: frank404 ($13.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Mattymoe13 ($55.65 in chips)
Seat 8: mikmak76 ($18.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Stag Man ($23.70 in chips)
SthernMan54: posts small blind $0.25
junior07: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scott Owen [:Td: :Th:]
Scott Owen: calls $0.50
frank404: folds
Mattymoe13: folds
mikmak76: folds
Stag Man: raises $1 to $1.50
chrome1: folds
Nepomuk1805: folds
SthernMan54: folds
junior07: folds
Scott Owen: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [

:Ts:]
Scott Owen: checks
Stag Man: bets $1.50
Scott Owen: calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [

:Ts:] [

]
Scott Owen: checks
Stag Man: bets $2
Scott Owen: raises $2 to $4
Stag Man: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [

:Ts:

] [:As:]
Scott Owen: checks
Stag Man: bets $9.50
Scott Owen: raises $10.50 to $20
Stag Man: folds
Scott Owen collected $32.10 from pot
Scott Owen: shows [:Td: :Th:] (three of a kind, Tens)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $33.75 | Rake $1.65
Board [4d 5d Ts 7c As]
Seat 1: chrome1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Nepomuk1805 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: SthernMan54 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: junior07 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Scott Owen collected ($32.10)
Seat 6: frank404 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Mattymoe13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: mikmak76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Stag Man folded on the River

what you think about the turn raise? My thoery was the build the pot, and then the check on the river makes it look like a weak steal and that i'm scared of the ace. Also i slowed down with it because there was only one other player seeing the flop, is this still perhaps dangerous with the flush draw? raise the turn more maybe? or bet out on the turn?

Hand 4
POKERSTARS GAME #2426495143: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/08/26 - 10:29:25 (ET)
Table 'Eleonora' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Scott Owen ($61.55 in chips)
Seat 2: CoLiMuS ($38.55 in chips)
Seat 3: mralllin ($29.55 in chips)
Seat 4: liran9 ($19.30 in chips)
Seat 5: jay hawk123 ($47.90 in chips)
Seat 6: Dough Gee ($79 in chips)
mralllin: posts small blind $0.25
liran9: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scott Owen [

]
jay hawk123: calls $0.50
Dough Gee: calls $0.50
Scott Owen: calls $0.50
CoLiMuS: calls $0.50
mralllin: calls $0.25
liran9: checks
*** FLOP *** [:Td:

]
mralllin: checks
liran9: bets $1
jay hawk123: calls $1
Dough Gee: raises $4 to $5
Scott Owen: raises $4 to $9
CoLiMuS: folds
mralllin: folds
liran9: folds
jay hawk123: folds
Dough Gee: calls $4
*** TURN *** [:Td:

] [

]
Dough Gee: checks
Scott Owen: checks
*** RIVER *** [:Td:

] [

]
Dough Gee: checks
Scott Owen: bets $10
Dough Gee: calls $10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Scott Owen: shows [

] (a full house, Eights full of Nines)
Dough Gee: shows [:Kd: :Ks:] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
Scott Owen collected $40.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $43 | Rake $2.05
Board [Td 8d 8c 9c 2d]
Seat 1: Scott Owen showed [9h 8h] and won ($40.95) with a full house, Eights full of Nines
Seat 2: CoLiMuS (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: mralllin (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: liran9 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: jay hawk123 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Dough Gee showed [Kd Ks] and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights

I didnt mean to raise the flop and i think that was a mistake as it probably weakened his view of his hand, and he may have payed me his whole stack if i hadnt. Wise to check the turn when i hit the FH?

Hand 5 - destacked

POKERSTARS GAME #2418356269: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/08/25 - 05:23:56 (ET)
Table 'Iva IV' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: hynes13 ($79.20 in chips)
Seat 2: tokyo_tad ($35 in chips)
Seat 3: Scott Owen ($48.95 in chips)
Seat 4: RobRoy71 ($24 in chips)
Seat 5: Blackhole55 ($22.90 in chips)
Seat 6: Lemon Paeroa ($29.40 in chips)
Blackhole55: posts small blind $0.25
Lemon Paeroa: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scott Owen [:Ks: :Kc:]
hynes13: calls $0.50
tokyo_tad: calls $0.50
Scott Owen: raises $1 to $1.50
RobRoy71: folds
Blackhole55: folds
Lemon Paeroa: calls $1
hynes13: calls $1
tokyo_tad: folds
*** FLOP *** [

]
Lemon Paeroa: checks
hynes13: checks
Scott Owen: bets $4
Lemon Paeroa: raises $4 to $8
hynes13: folds
Scott Owen: raises $39.45 to $47.45 and is all-in
Lemon Paeroa: calls $19.90 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [

] [

]
*** RIVER *** [

] [:As:]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Lemon Paeroa: shows [

] (a full house, Threes full of Nines)
Scott Owen: mucks hand
Scott Owen said, "nh"
Lemon Paeroa collected $58.05 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $61.05 | Rake $3
Board [9h 6h 3d 9c As]
Seat 1: hynes13 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: tokyo_tad folded before Flop
Seat 3: Scott Owen mucked [Ks Kc]
Seat 4: RobRoy71 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Blackhole55 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Lemon Paeroa (big blind) showed [3h 3c] and won ($58.05) with a full house, Threes full of Nines

so i paid this guy off, and sat there wondering how the hell to handle the situation.. you have an over pair and bet it on the flop, whats the go if i get raised? I have been thinking that i should have raised a lower ammount, say to $25, that way only the hands that are beating me will hang around for the ride and i dont lose my whole stack if i'm beat, but.. if i get reraised AI i fold right? but that looks really strange, bet half my stack then fold?

villain goes AI
i call with a set (i have him owned)
i win pot
villain: **** this, this site is bullshit, ******* rigged, suck out ****

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PokerPatNEU

08-26-2005, 05:19 PM

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Hand 1 and 2 look read depending to me and well played if your reads said you could get folds, but i'll comment on the rest.

Hand 3 i like up until the show. Villain definitely folded a worse hand, and i hate reaffirming villain's reads by showing them they were correct. Even though you have gained some fold equity on future hands, because if villain is paying attention he will fear your check raises.

I would have bet the turn in hand 4. If he's willing to put that much in the pot ont he flop i would probably put him on the other 8 or an over pair. If its an over pair he doesn't believe you have an 8 and will continue to pay it off. If it's the other 8 he probably doesnt have a FH and theres no way he's laying down the set. I think an 8-10$ turn bet would get a call in addition to another 15~ bet on the river (as long as a card taht completes both draws like the J or 7 of diamonds doesnt drop on the river).

Hand 5 i would only push if i thought that villain was a donk who would call my PFR with A9...or a tilty villain who is tired of beint bullied. Any decent player will put you on an over pair here i think, and when he check-min-raises I think it's a sign of a set. If you think he's bluffing because he doesnt believe your continuation bet and he puts you on over cards, a re-raise to 19$ instead of all in will tell you if you're beat or not.

BIGandRICH

08-27-2005, 04:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PokerPatNEU

Hand 3 i like up until the show. Villain definitely folded a worse hand, and i hate reaffirming villain's reads by showing them they were correct. Even though you have gained some fold equity on future hands, because if villain is paying attention he will fear your check raises.

yes, deffinately, i dont know why i showed this, i wanted a loose image at the time, stupid error by me.. ohwell.

villain goes AI
i call with a set (i have him owned)
i win pot
villain: **** this, this site is bullshit, ******* rigged, suck out ****

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