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Old 10-17-2005, 01:49 AM     Post subject: First time I put my opp on a hand dead-on #1 (permalink)  
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Luring people in with a higher set when they are drawing dead is fun!

Once he made that 9$ bet on the turn, I knew exactly what he had heh. Hence the raise on the turn (so the pot gets big enough for me to take his stack on the river).

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$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, October 16, 21:43:28 EDT 2005
Table Table 68462 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Karuna ( $7.75 )
Seat 2: BlackEcstasy ( $46.25 )
Seat 3: Sunnyg1999 ( $48 )
Seat 5: All4Liam ( $82.90 )
Seat 6: johndrake111 ( $33.50 )
Seat 10: kennydshark ( $54.44 )
Seat 7: lillui ( $35.35 )
Seat 8: presentense1 ( $46.69 )
Seat 9: sweeter33 ( $49.50 )
Seat 4: Adrock013 ( $49 )
Adrock013 posts small blind [$0.25].
All4Liam is sitting out.
johndrake111 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BlackEcstasy [ Qs Qc ]
lillui calls [$0.50].
All4Liam has left the table.
presentense1 calls [$0.50].
sweeter33 folds.
kennydshark calls [$0.50].
MORRISON2U has joined the table.
Karuna folds.
BlackEcstasy raises [$3].
Sunnyg1999 calls [$3].
Adrock013 folds.
johndrake111 folds.
lillui folds.
presentense1 folds.
kennydshark calls [$2.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, 3h, Kc ]
kennydshark checks.
BlackEcstasy checks.
Sunnyg1999 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
kennydshark bets [$9].
BlackEcstasy raises [$18].
Sunnyg1999 folds.
kennydshark calls [$9].
** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
kennydshark checks.
BlackEcstasy is all-In [$25.25]
kennydshark calls [$25.25].
kennydshark shows [ 8s, 8c ] three of a kind, eights.
BlackEcstasy shows [ Qs, Qc ] three of a kind, queens.
BlackEcstasy wins $94.25 from the main pot with three of a kind, queens.
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Old 10-17-2005, 01:57 AM #2 (permalink)  
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If I know he has a set, I'm raising the turn hard.

The flop check really sucks. You gotta consider at least half pot for balance.
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:04 AM #3 (permalink)  
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If I know he has a set, I'm raising the turn hard.

The flop check really sucks. You gotta consider at least half pot for balance.
Why bet the flop? Then everyone folds
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:28 AM #4 (permalink)  
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If I know he has a set, I'm raising the turn hard.

The flop check really sucks. You gotta consider at least half pot for balance.
Why bet the flop? Then everyone folds
But they're not expecting a high set like that to bet...so you might get some calls
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If I know he has a set, I'm raising the turn hard.

The flop check really sucks. You gotta consider at least half pot for balance.
Why bet the flop? Then everyone folds
But they're not expecting a high set like that to bet...so you might get some calls
The guy would think i had AA or top pair and still fold his pocket 8s lol.
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If I know he has a set, I'm raising the turn hard.

The flop check really sucks. You gotta consider at least half pot for balance.
Why bet the flop? Then everyone folds
But they're not expecting a high set like that to bet...so you might get some calls
The guy would think i had AA or top pair and still fold his pocket 8s lol.
But he's almost NEVER going to get his 3rd 8 on the turn/river...so by your reasoning you're never getting paid off
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Old 10-17-2005, 08:41 AM #7 (permalink)  
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If I know he has a set, I'm raising the turn hard.

The flop check really sucks. You gotta consider at least half pot for balance.
Why bet the flop? Then everyone folds
Because I don't let players get a strong-when-weak weak-when-strong read on me. I bet lots of flops to cover for all the times I don't have anything. So when I do have it I must bet or my checks become a sign of either great strength or great weakness and nothing in between.
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Old 10-18-2005, 04:53 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I c-bet that flop because I c-bet every flop. But I'd make it a nice easy c-bet.

The 88 might call anyway. I've seen 'em do it plenty of times.
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Old 10-18-2005, 06:35 AM #9 (permalink)  
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If I know he has a set, I'm raising the turn hard.

The flop check really sucks. You gotta consider at least half pot for balance.
Why bet the flop? Then everyone folds
As 'rilla would say.. stop being so results oriented. This is an easy flop bet IMO, being the preflop raiser. Generally, if you get folds here, you wouldn't have made much money on this hand anyway. You were fortunate enough that the poker gods put an 8 on the turn...
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Old 10-18-2005, 06:50 AM #10 (permalink)  
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might i add, the preflop raise (rather hefty) then check on the flop often screams slowplay. it's already been said, but a flop bet is important to disguise your intentions and hinder reads.

in this particular case it worked out beautifully, but in general you can't expect a lower PP to hit a set - and if someone were to spike two pair on the turn, for instance, they might still be wary of a big hand because of the flop check.

just some incoherent thoughts before i go to sleep...
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