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jimmy44
Old 06-06-2007, 02:13 PM     Post subject: First 25NL session! #1 (permalink)  
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Guys,

I started playing cash games and I think I'll do it for a while.
Could I have your input on this hand?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP2 ($6.35)
MP3 ($8.10)
CO ($31.80)
Button ($25)
SB ($25.50)
BB ($18.70)
UTG ($30.95)
Hero ($26)
MP1 ($20.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q, J.
1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, 2 folds, BB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25.

Flop: ($1.85) 5, Q, 2 (4 players)
BB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2.4, MP3 folds, BB raises to $4.8, Hero ????.

Table was quite tight. My image was tight. raiy3 was stealing some pots on the flop. However, I haven't seen him 3 betting with a bluff. sara04 was pretty weak/tight.

On this hand, raiy3 thought a bit before raise Pre-flop. I could put him on AA-KK but I didn't want to believe too many monsters under the bet (as taipan always puts it), I called the pre-flop raise. After his standard flop bet I thought either he might indeed have AA-KK and I put in a raise to check it out. His small 3-bet puzzled me, is he bluffing? or does he really has AA-KK (QQ was also a possibility). He also thought a lot before betting. He defintely did not put me on trips and I was tight and raised on the flop.
I'm getting about 4.5-1, this is a standard call, even if he was QQ, I suppose?
Would you call up to 1/3 bet on the turn if a non-flush card comes?

Thanks!
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Old 06-06-2007, 02:25 PM #2 (permalink)  

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From his 3x preflop raise - i think A/Q, A/K is a likely holding. However, after he bets, you re-raise, and then he min re-raises you - i think you are beat here. 99% of the time All that you are beating here is A/K - and if he has A/K of clubs, he still has a good chance of catching up.

I would fold - even though the odd's dicate a call - the only card which can possibly save you is another Q (even that might have you beat) or another jack - very unlikely. What happens on the turn if he fires $3-4 at you - again odd's would dicate a call - but this is not the place to chace.

I say fold. You have only commited $3 to the pot with a marginal hand.
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Old 06-06-2007, 02:44 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I'd call and see what happens on the turn.

If your hand hasn't improved and he bets, fold.
 
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:23 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I don't always play QJs from up front like this, but it's OK in a fishy game i guess. I fold to the flop reraise here, sure we're getting 4.5-1, but I think it's likely were are drawing to 5 outs at best.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:15 PM #5 (permalink)  
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the reverse implied odds make calling the flop a mistake.
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:36 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Don't you think we could stack opp if he is plaing AA/KK and if a J (and possibly another Q) hits on the turn?
OK, maybe only the J would be good as Q would also be good to KQ/AQ ...
Or am I being too optimistic?
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