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Old 03-06-2005, 06:00 AM     Post subject: First $50NL hand question - did I play correctly? KK vs ?? #1 (permalink)  
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I think I misplayed my pocket kings. First of all, I think I should have pre-flop raised more because people with pocket pairs will still call in hopes of cracking me. This was about my 4th hand in at this table so I had no reads. Usually I dont have reads anyways..

I figured he was on some face cards or a small pocket pair because he simply called preflop. His raise scared me, but I figured that thats what I would do with TPTK. If he flopped the flush I think he might have just called (hopefully).

I know that some people would say that by moving allin I am only gonna get called by better hands.
But Ive also heard people say that they moved allin to really put his faith in his hand to the test.
I figured my kings were enough to push with, given the chance he would fold. I wasnt sensing much strength so I figured Id make a move.

I think it was a bad play looking back. The board just wasnt push friendly.

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***** Hand History for Game 1692644810 *****
$50 NL Hold'em - Sunday, March 06, 01:36:16 EDT 2005
Table Table 36881 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: ktulu7 ( $47.25 )
Seat 2: Shelli35333 ( $66.6 )
Seat 4: nouveauPanda ( $58.1 )
Seat 5: wolve050173 ( $32.97 )
Seat 6: lil_radish ( $22.75 )
Seat 7: Chance7711 ( $41.85 )
Seat 8: timmy_wd40 ( $19 )
Seat 9: Tritonian ( $28 )
Seat 10: Yoiaholic ( $41.2 )
Seat 3: SlappYou ( $49.25 )
lil_radish posts small blind [$0.25].
Chance7711 posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SlappYou [ Kd Kh ]
timmy_wd40 folds.
Tritonian folds.
Yoiaholic folds.
ktulu7 folds.
Shelli35333 folds.
>You have options at Table 37425 Table!.
SlappYou raises [$2].
>You have options at Table 37281 Table!.
nouveauPanda calls [$2].
wolve050173 calls [$2].
lil_radish folds.
Chance7711 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qc, Jc, 2c ]
SlappYou bets [$6].
nouveauPanda folds.
wolve050173 raises [$12].
>You have options at Table 37281 Table!.
SlappYou is all-In [$41.25]
wolve050173 is all-In [$18.97]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qh ]
** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]
wolve050173 shows [ Jh, Kc ] two pairs, queens and jacks.
SlappYou shows [ Kd, Kh ] two pairs, kings and queens.
SlappYou wins $16.28 from side pot #1 with two pairs, kings and queens.
SlappYou wins $65.69 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and queens.
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Old 03-06-2005, 12:11 PM     Post subject: Re: First $50NL hand question - did I play correctly? KK vs #2 (permalink)  
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I know that some people would say that by moving allin I am only gonna get called by better hands.
Apparently not, eh? You'll get called by AQ and sometimes AJ in addition to (?!?!) KJ

(with the Ac I might've gone ahead the way he did. Maybe)
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Old 03-06-2005, 05:07 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I like the preflop raise. You'd like to get one or two callers, and the table has folded to you. Standard 4xbb raise seems perfect.

I could go either way on the flop push. Really the only thing you're worried about is someone who stayed in with high clubs (or as you said, a pocket pair). I'm too lazy to calculate, but I'd expect that chances are equally good for someone to have a lessor hand and call as opposed to having one of the rare hands that beats you.
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Old 03-06-2005, 07:01 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Yea, I guess that if half the time I was up against a better hand then pushing would be a very bad idea..I dont think many people would call a bet like that without having one pair beat. On the other hand, if I didnt push then I could extract more from lesser hands that would usually fold if I simply pushed.

And I admit that I have pushed because I wanted to avoid those difficult decisions that come further down the board...
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