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LeFou

07-14-2004, 09:54 PM Post subject: Finally a set! All in?

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unbeknownst to me, of course, the guy bringing me all in has an SF draw. Obviously, the fruit bat with top pair and so-so kicker blew it, But is this the right call?

Should I have put in a nice raise preflop, possibly scaring off Gauge?

(NuWere is Me)
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fruit pie bets $2.95, peeps5969 folds, NuWere calls $2.95, Borgeeng folds, snoopysix folds, biggysmallz folds, maniaman23 folds, Guage73 calls $2.45.

FLOP [board cards AD,4D,3S ]
Guage73 bets $5, fruit pie bets $15, NuWere calls $15, Guage73 bets $58.05 and is all-in, fruit pie calls $15 and is all-in, NuWere calls $25.05 and is all-in.

TURN [board cards AD,4D,3S,8S ]

RIVER [board cards AD,4D,3S,8S,JD ]

SHOWDOWN
Guage73 shows [ 6D,5D ]
fruit pie shows [ JH,AC ]
NuWere shows [ 3H,3C ]
Guage73 wins $23, Guage73 wins $20.10, Guage73 wins $96.10.

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fishstick

07-14-2004, 10:33 PM

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this whole hand hurts my head!

i'm guessing the BB was $.50?

if i'm reading the hand right:

- you called a preflop raise of 6xBB with 33 - unless fruity was a crazy dumbass maniac, i would have probably folded at this point. definitely no reraise preflop (it wouldn't have folded anyone most likely)
- guage calling the PFR with 56d is very suspect as well
- guage betting a little over half the pot on his draw(s) is fine (since he's in the hand), although, if he makes the flush, and someone else hits it, they're flush is most likely bigger
- now you, since you're in the hand, you made the reraise call on the flop when you were substantially ahead in the hand, so no fault there. i think guage's huge reraise borders on insane, but maybe he had a "feeling"

so all of that said, you had the best of it until guage caught his river diamond - you got rivered.

it's hands like this that keep from playing more ring games!

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michael1123

07-15-2004, 10:44 AM

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That reraise is crazy, but he did correctly assume that neither of you two were on draws, so he had 15 outs on the flop, which is good for a 54% chance of hitting a straight or flush.

But, he may not have figured on your set, which would've made a board pair kill his outs.

The preflop is the most confusing part. I'd like to know what stakes the game was at as well.

Toasty

07-15-2004, 12:14 PM

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Just ran it though 2dimes...

cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
6d 5d 386 42.75 517 57.25 0 0.00 0.427
Ac Jh 19 2.10 884 97.90 0 0.00 0.021
3c 3h 498 55.15 405 44.85 0 0.00 0.551

You were the fav but I must admit I did like the all in on the flop from the 5d 6d dude. When you add in the times everyone folds its got to be a winning move. I expected the 5/6 to be a bigger favourite but I imagine half the time he makes his hand on the turn he will go on to lose 20% of the time on the river and vice versa.

What is interesting is the person with TP Good Kicker only had a 2% shot at the pot, ouch . . .

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michael1123

07-15-2004, 05:32 PM

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Yeah, but not too surprising with the top pair guy. Its hard enough for that to beat the draw, let alone the set (would need a runner runner full house).

I also like the play with the 65s at the flop, especially since he doesn't even know the set is out there, and the huge raise should scare out any better flush draw, etc., so its keeping all his draws live. And there's no way anyone is putting him on that hand.

But ... hopefully ... the blinds are bigger than Fishstick is thinking. Calling even a moderate preflop raise with 65s is loose. Calling a 6x BB preflop raise with it would be crazy.

fishstick

07-15-2004, 06:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by michael1123

But ... hopefully ... the blinds are bigger than Fishstick is thinking. Calling even a moderate preflop raise with 65s is loose. Calling a 6x BB preflop raise with it would be crazy.

guage called $2.45 to the bet of $2.95, so i'm guessing guage was the BB and the BB was .50?

and opps

, i didn't see guage's str draw as well - this certainly makes his flop reraise a lot more understandable. it would most likely chase the other drawers out.

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