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Running Gag
Old 11-01-2004, 11:15 PM     Post subject: finally on the giving end of a bad beat #1 (permalink)  

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Before I go through the hand history, let me throw in a few background details first, so I don't look like a total maniac. I was in a freeroll last night at PStars, and I had roughly 12300 chips, which, shortly after the first break, made me the large stack at the table I was at. I was on the button, and the SB had a little over 8000 chips, while the BB had something like 3900. Blinds had been upped to 100/200, and for the past few orbits, I'd been stealing 'em whenever I'd been on the button through 5xBB raises.

The hand goes down like this. I'm dealt [5c 3c], and after literally everyone on this table folds over to me (3 people were sitting out), I again raise 1000 chips. Well, to my dismay, both the SB and the BB call, so I figure I'm a huge dog, but wth, they just called...

Flop comes [4d 6h 7d], and I'm literally sitting there and creaming my goddamn pants, although I am a little worried about the high flush draw (both the SB and the BB were tight passive, so I knew they wouldn't have called my raise without something like Big Slick or possibly pockets). SB checks, and to my delight, BB raises all-in. I immediately call, and SB folds, and we both flip over our cards.

Turns out BB had [Ah Ac], so there was no possible flush draw for him, and he was pretty much drawing dead unless he hit running As (which didn't happen). I know I probably played this hand poorly, but damn, it's about time I reversed roles in bad beat situations.
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Old 11-02-2004, 01:11 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Perhaps don't raise *every* time it gets folded around to you on the button. you're raises will be less respected and it will be continuously harder to steal and you'll be put in situations where people can get bad beats against you.

Other than that, you caught a lucky flop. Good job :P

Oh, and there is one lesson for this: Don't slowplay AA

because you would have folded if he pushed PF, right?
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Old 11-02-2004, 01:20 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Yeah i agree with stuck, i mean why wouldnt he raise pre flop, slow playing aces is a big mistake cause you may end up in situations like this, oh and congratulations on the very lucke flop


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Old 11-02-2004, 01:54 AM #4 (permalink)  

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because you would have folded if he pushed PF, right?
haha, with a 5-3? No question.
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Old 11-02-2004, 03:26 AM #5 (permalink)  
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he was pretty much drawing dead unless he hit running As
Or an A and a 4, or an A and 6, or an A and a 7, or a 3 and a 5, or 5 and an 8, or running 4's, or running 6's, or running 7's.
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Old 11-02-2004, 03:39 AM #6 (permalink)  
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he was pretty much drawing dead unless he hit running As
Or an A and a 4, or an A and 6, or an A and a 7, or a 3 and a 5, or 5 and an 8, or running 4's, or running 6's, or running 7's.
God damn! He's lucky to have come out of that one alive!

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Old 11-02-2004, 08:59 AM #7 (permalink)  
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That's what he gets for slow playing rockets... Nice Flop,

I just said the same thing stuck did, damn I am dumb and original, time to go to sleep. Props to stuck.
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Old 11-02-2004, 04:48 PM     Post subject: Re: finally on the giving end of a bad beat #8 (permalink)  
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I know I probably played this hand poorly...
Hmm, I really don't see that at all. You went for a blind steal in late position with the big stack. When it failed, you got to see the flop anyway, and with that hand, you are likely to win big if it hits the flop hard (like it did). The only poor play was AA letting you see the flop for no more than your initial raise. I think your play was fine.
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:55 PM #9 (permalink)  
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He indeed did slow play his aces, should definitely have raised you all in pre flop, and that's why he lost this hand. It was good loose agressive blind stealing policy on your part, and poor "just calling" big raises policy on his part. You would certainly have folded to his raise and he would have won the pot right there.

I know how this kind of player thinks.... If you were to pull that guy aside and talk to him about it afterwards, I'm sure that he would have said that the amount of your raise was about as much as he felt comfortable investing in the pot, even holding rockets. Only calling your raise instead of putting you on the defensive is exactly what to expect out of such a passive player. This is an example of why playing aggressive instead of passive is far more important than whether you play loose or tight.
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