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Old 05-01-2007, 11:23 PM     Post subject: A few from Mansion #1 (permalink)  
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 Sorry theres a couple but they probably need to be together. Assume opponents are very average 100nl players, nothing like you'd find on a US site.

Mansion 100nl Fullring (9handed)

1. Didnt realise i was UTG so this isnt exactly standard. Once the flop comes how are we playing this? MP is a fish/really bad, button has only one note 'bets when checked too' but hasnt done anything to make me label him bad.
My image isnt so bad but i have been called down really light a couple of times

Hero(UTG) $150
MP $30
Button $100.

Hero is UTg with

Preflop
Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, MP calls, 2 folds, Button calls, blinds fold.

Flop ($12~)
:Js: :Ts:
Hero?


2. No idea how big stack got his money, but i havent seen him do anything bad. From what ive seen in two orbits he's a little tricky and seems to be playing a lot of cards. My favourite river line is c/r all in not an overbet lead fwiw...

MP $450
Button (hero) $100

Dealt to hero

Folds to HJ who raises to $4, Hero calls.

Flop ($8)

Hero bets $7, villain calls.

Turn ($22~)
:Tc:
Hero checks, villain checks.

River ($22~)

Hero bets $27, villain raises all in, Hero?????


3. Opp totally unknown, his first orbit. Everyone will have seen me opening a little light, but i dont c-bet without a hand most often, a draw or when i feel my FE is pretty decent versus opponent.

Hero(CO) $100
Button $100

Preflop
Dealt to Hero :As: :Kc:

Hero raises to $4, button calls.

Flop ($8)
:Qc: :Jc:
Hero bets $8, villain calls.

Turn ($24)

Hero bets $24, villain calls.

River ($72)
:Qd:
Hero???????? ($60 behind)
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Old 05-02-2007, 01:17 AM #2 (permalink)  
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hand 1 standard cbet or c/r

hand 2
bet the turn...dont know why u didnt bet there ...fold riv ...the riv is pretty tough..he could actually be making this play with an overpair , busted draw , or a fh ...

hand 3
i think you can make an argument for firing a third barrel here , but w/o a read i just shutdown and c/f
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hand 1 - would love to get it all-in there - is c/r best or c-bet - since I tend to c-bet as normal since I would do so with plenty of reasonable hands

hand 2 - this is a toughie because of it being the bigstack with little idea how he got it ... really can't decide here but I don't think we can get away because our play looks VERY much like a missed & bluffed draw - call

hand 3 - think we're screwed into check-folding here
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 i was thinking of c/c'ing turn then pushing a non-diamond river looking like i missed a draw etc.
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Tough hands.

1. I bet, 3-bet push usually. But I cultivate a spewy image and embrace variance.

2. I'm betting the turn. As played, I call the river. I think he has an overpair here.

3. Why pot-pot? I know it makes it easy to get it AI if you hit your flush, but you're oop and don't have the nut draw. I bet less on both streets and save enough behind to bet river, fold to raise. As played, I stick it AI. You're only getting calls from Qs and flopped flushes, I don't think AcJx or TcTx can make this call.
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Tough hands.

1. I bet, 3-bet push usually. But I cultivate a spewy image and embrace variance.

2. I'm betting the turn. As played, I call the river. I think he has an overpair here.

3. Why pot-pot? I know it makes it easy to get it AI if you hit your flush, but you're oop and don't have the nut draw. I bet less on both streets and save enough behind to bet river, fold to raise. As played, I stick it AI. You're only getting calls from Qs and flopped flushes, I don't think AcJx or TcTx can make this call.
pretty much my thoughts on all three.
In 3, i decided before c-betting that i was going pot pot push on every street considering the board and my likely holdings with that line
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In hand 3, is there anything wrong with a check/call on the flop?
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Old 05-02-2007, 08:35 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 1. Pot flop
2. Bet turn he doesnt bet behind often enough in a bloated pot. sometimes reraise preflop to test the waters, build an image and get implied odds.
3. check turn
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In hand 3, is there anything wrong with a check/call on the flop?
30% the time id take this line as i have a flush here about that much of the time.
As a general rule i need to fire flop, turn and rivers more often than i am doing for balance hence my line.
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