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Vinterriket
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09-05-2006, 02:06 AM
Post subject: A few hands for comments
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I'm mainly a sng and tourney player and am trying to get better at ring.
Any and all comments are appreciated on the following hands.
Hand 1:
Is this standard?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($5.80)
UTG+1 ($46.55)
MP1 ($9.95)
MP2 ($4.25)
MP3 ($23.80)
CO ($13.95)
Button ($8.70)
SB ($27.55)
Hero ($25)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q , T .
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Button calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero checks.
Flop: ($1.10) 3 , 4 , Q (4 players)
Hero bets $0.75, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Button calls $0.75.
Turn: ($2.60) T (2 players)
Hero bets $2, Button raises to $4, Hero raises to $8
Hand 2
OK to just push here vs shorty? or call his reraise and see a flop?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($29.60)
SB ($7.05)
BB ($10.10)
UTG ($30.70)
UTG+1 ($22.30)
MP1 ($24.65)
MP2 ($8)
MP3 ($12.75)
Hero ($29.25)
Preflop: Hero is CO with K , A .
5 folds, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, BB raises to $2.5, Hero raises to $10.25
Hand 3
Villain seemed to be a tricky-nitty. I couldn't give him credit for calling my preflop raise OOP with 22,33, or 44. OK to just call down? what do you think?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP1 ($5.90)
MP2 ($24.15)
CO ($30.55)
Button ($24.30)
SB ($24.75)
BB ($13.50)
UTG ($14.95)
Hero ($37)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A , A .
1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 4 folds, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold.
Flop: ($2.25) 4 , 2 , 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2.
Turn: ($8.25) J (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5.
River: ($18.25) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $10, Hero calls $10.
Hand 4
Yay or nay?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP2 ($25)
CO ($22.55)
Button ($27.60)
SB ($22.20)
BB ($26.70)
UTG ($19.35)
Hero ($57.50)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9 , 9 . MP2 posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, Hero raises to $1, MP2 (poster) calls $0.75, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, 2 folds.
Flop: ($4.35) 8 , 2 , 8 (4 players)
Hero bets $2.5, MP2 raises to $5, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls $2.50.
Turn: ($14.35) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $9.75, Hero raises to $19.5
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Vinterriket
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anyone have any comments? (bump)
I know I have some leaks.
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gabe
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i dont like the reraise on hand 1. it looks like he could easily have flopped the nuts. i would call, and lead the river but fold to a river raise. this ensures you get the most value from hands you beat but lose the least when you are smoked.
the second one is good.
the third one i would reraise the flop. i dont think there are enough nitty players on those tables to make you want to be cautious here. i would be happy to get allin on flop.
fourth one i hate. dont try big bluffs here, people dont fold much.
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martindcx1e
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#1 - Don't bloat this pot here. Why would villain raise this card? It most likely didn't help him especially since it helped you. So he's either bluffing or he flopped a monster. Go with gabe's line above.
#2 - I don't like this. Maybe it's just a difference of how much you like to gamble, but it's not for me.
#3 - I'd bet more on flop. I like a re-raise. Villain could have so many overpairs here that you crush.
#4 - You only beat a bluff here. You're beat by any other overpair and villain's line does not look like a bluff usually.
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Galapogos
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On hand #3 not only would I give him credit for 22, 33, or 44 but also 23s, 34s, 24s, A5. People call lots of junk from the SB at these limits. I would 3 bet the flop and if he keeps pushing I would lay it down against him since I don't think a nit would get too crazy with a mid-overpair.
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I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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BankItDrew
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Hand 1: call turn raise and lead 1/3 or 1/2 on river.
Hand 2: Push with AK is always fine against shorties IMO. I don't like calling the reraise only to miss the flop 2/3 of the time and folding to their flop push.
Hand 3: double villains raise ($6). If they come over the top again, find a fold most of the time. You only have a pair.
Hand 4: Lead turn and fold to any raise. Overpairs are afraid of the 8 here, so you're only beating a bluff. Never raise the turn here like you did, unless you think he's bluffing, which he probably isn't.
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Fnord
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
#2 - I don't like this. Maybe it's just a difference of how much you like to gamble, but it's not for me.
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If you don't like to gamble here, take up another form of poker.
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Originally Posted by BankItDrew
Hand 3: double villains raise ($6). If they come over the top again, find a fold most of the time. You only have a pair.
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Once we re-bump it, folding can't be right. This is our spot and we're gambling here.
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Vinterriket
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Hand 1: Villain flopped the nut flush, after his turn minraise he only had ~$4 in his stack so I think I have to fold here or just go ahead and put him all in. Considering the pot is now $8.60 and he has less than $4 in his stack what is your turn line then?
Hand 2: Villain called with 88, I flopped an ace.
Hand 3: Villain had KK, what do you think of his line?
Hand 4: My gut instinct (leak) told me I was ahead after his turn bet so I put him all in. He called with 77 and I took the pot. In retrospect, I think the lead turn / fold to raise line is best. Bad play by me.
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Fnord
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Nice laydows guys.
Re Hand 4:
When he (min) raises the flop with players to act, I begin to strongly doubt he has trips or better unless I know he's either really terrible or really good. Medicore players call here almost always because they don't want to scare off future action.
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Vinterriket
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yea I agree, I dont think a typical 25NL player minraises an 8 in this spot (hand 4).... after the turn bet I put him on 55-77, 99-JJ, or bluff. Reasonable range?
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martindcx1e
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so i should usually be willing to gamble AK PF for ~50BB's? wow i guess i've been missing value.
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