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Old 08-02-2004, 05:09 AM     Post subject: a few hands to check out and let me know oif i fucked up #1 (permalink)  
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Dealer: Hand #1962827
Dealer: Barry26 posts the small blind of $1
Dealer: dwdrm posts the big blind of $2
Dealer: You have been dealt [Kd Kh]
Dealer: Magnum25 raises to $4
Dealer: toefungus calls $4
Dealer: maxxscam raises to $10
Dealer: njschloss folds
Dealer: Ace7749 folds
Dealer: cwhite folds
Dealer: budman folds
Dealer: Barry26 folds
Dealer: dwdrm calls $8
Dealer: Magnum25 calls $6
Dealer: toefungus calls $6
Dealer: The flop is [Jh 9d As]
Dealer: dwdrm checks
Dealer: Magnum25 checks
Dealer: toefungus checks
Dealer: maxxscam bets $10
cwhite: my gf turns 21 today!
Dealer: dwdrm calls $10
Dealer: Magnum25 raises to $70
Dealer: toefungus folds
maxxscam: &!#&in pos hand
Dealer: maxxscam folds
Dealer: dwdrm folds
Dealer: Uncalled bet of $60 returned to Magnum25
Dealer: Magnum25 mucks
Dealer: Magnum25 wins the pot ($68)



Dealer: Hand #1953131
Dealer: toefungus posts the small blind of $1
Dealer: maxxscam posts the big blind of $2
Dealer: You have been dealt [2h 3h]
Dealer: toefungus is feeling confused
Dealer: Invalid folds
Dealer: cwhite folds
Dealer: budman folds
Dealer: baller21 folds
Dealer: TYSON calls $2
Dealer: Magnum25 folds
Dealer: toefungus calls $1
Dealer: maxxscam checks
Dealer: The flop is [3s 3c As]
Dealer: toefungus bets $10
Dealer: toefungus is feeling happy
Dealer: maxxscam calls $10
Dealer: TYSON calls $10
Dealer: The turn is [9d]
Dealer: toefungus bets $209.35, and is all in
Dealer: toefungus is feeling confused
Dealer: toefungus is feeling happy
maxxscam: damn
Dealer: maxxscam has 15 seconds left to act
maxxscam: i hate to lay this down
Dealer: maxxscam calls $84.95, and is all in
Dealer: TYSON folds
Dealer: Uncalled bet of $124.40 returned to toefungus
Dealer: The river is [Jc]
Dealer: toefungus shows three of a kind, Threes
Dealer: maxxscam shows three of a kind, Threes
Dealer: toefungus wins the pot ($202.90) with three of a kind, Threes
Dealer: maxxscam is sitting out


i meant to lay this one down but hit call at last second, being stupid
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Old 08-02-2004, 05:29 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1, I can't blame you, I usually play it the same way. With all those people in the hand, I guess you could've figured that someone almost assuredly had an ace and therefore not bet on the flop, but you tried to take it down, and there's really nothing wrong with that. At least you didn't call the huge raise.

Hand 2, I think you gotta fold here. I folded an almost identical hand a while back and posted that one (although it was on a penny table ) - http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...pic.php?t=1495
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Old 08-02-2004, 06:52 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Stack sizes would be nice.

Hand 1: I'm leaning towards check/fold here. I've tried this twice the weekend with much meatier bets. I had to laydown both times. With a lot of money behind you I don't think you're giving up a lot of value.

Hand 2: If it was anything but an Ace on the side, I'd fold. I think you got to raise the flop big here.
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Old 08-02-2004, 08:38 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Why would you raise the flop big? You'd likely scare out hands you beat, like an A, and only get called by hands that beat you, which is any other 3. You really play trips on a rainbow flop like that?

By the way, now that I take another look, it is a tougher laydown than I thought because of the turn 9. You're worried about the kicker here, but you're playing the 333A9, which means if they have a kicker lower than a 9 its a split, and the betting is coming from the SB. The hand doesn't show, but apparently they had K3 or Q3 judging from the river. But even with the possible split, I'd still lay it down. Too much to risk and not that much invested.
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Old 08-02-2004, 08:50 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Q3 is what he had,

heres another gem


Dealer: Hand #1982708
Dealer: maxxscam posts the big blind of $2
Dealer: You have been dealt [9s 8s]
Kaspie: imma go ry
Kaspie: cry
Kaspie: flopped the nut
Ace7749: GAME BREAKER
maxxscam: ty
Dealer: Kaspie stands up
Dealer: Ace7749 folds
Dealer: LuckyM08 folds
Dealer: SlyGuyRy folds
Dealer: Joshua raises to $4
Dealer: rainman990 folds
Ace7749: say nh and tip your hat
Dealer: dwdrm calls $4
Dealer: Invalid folds
Dealer: maxxscam calls $2
Dealer: The flop is [Qs 7s Th]
Dealer: maxxscam bets $4
Dealer: Joshua raises to $12
Dealer: dwdrm calls $12
Dealer: maxxscam calls $8
Dealer: The turn is [2s]
Invalid: that was nice.. my poor pocket Kings.. -_-
Dealer: maxxscam bets $6
Dealer: Joshua calls $6
Dealer: dwdrm raises to $20.70, and is all in
Dealer: maxxscam calls $14.70
Dealer: Joshua calls $14.70
Dealer: The river is [Qc]
Dealer: maxxscam checks
Dealer: Joshua checks
Dealer: dwdrm shows a full house, Queens full of Twos
dwdrm: ty
Dealer: maxxscam shows a flush, Queen high
Ace7749: ouch
Dealer: Joshua shows two pair, Aces and Queens
Dealer: dwdrm wins the pot ($107.10) with a full house, Queens full of Twos


was alittle afraid of boat or bigger flush so didnt raise the river, unfortunatly all in fucker hit his 4 outter on river, lost another 100$ pot
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Old 08-02-2004, 08:53 AM #6 (permalink)  
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the hand where i busted with 2 3 was one of my first hands at the table so i didnt have a read on him at all, with that guy, we actually got to talkin and became good buddies at the table, i rebought for 200, and increased my stack up over 600, dispite the hands i posted and many other rough hands, and he built his to around 350, and he told me he felt the hand was a jacked up hand and just unlucky, and said he's gonna transfer me 85$ ,whether he does or not, who knows, seems like a real nice guy tho
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Old 08-02-2004, 08:55 AM #7 (permalink)  
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open ended straight and flush draw, hit my flush, dude hits a boat on river, bahhhh
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Old 08-02-2004, 06:38 PM #8 (permalink)  
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4 outers are killin me

Dealer: Hand #2012735
Dealer: Barry26 posts the small blind of $1
Dealer: Cliche posts the big blind of $2
monAY (Observer): ill wait for visa beat out 800 people for $8 not worth the time
Dealer: You have been dealt [Ah Qh]
Lester77: nh
Dealer: toefungus folds
maxxscam: thank you
Dealer: _Q_ folds
Dealer: Lester77 raises to $6
Dealer: maxxscam calls $6
Dealer: tanvec folds
Dealer: williegarvin folds
Cliche: haha, when they started before the beta ended
Dealer: baller21 folds
Dealer: tanvec stands up
Dealer: Barry26 folds
Dealer: pablohoto adds $80
Cliche: i finish in the top 8 in everyone i played
Dealer: Cliche folds
Dealer: The flop is [Ac 2s Qd]
Dealer: Lester77 bets $6
Cliche: and i played 4
Cliche: so you can do it
Dealer: maxxscam calls $6
Dealer: The turn is [Tc]
monAY (Observer): thats y ur my hero
Cliche: play solid poker
Dealer: Lester77 bets $27
Cliche: try them out
Dealer: maxxscam has 15 seconds left to act
toefungus: i just go all in tournaments
Cliche: if you have nothign to do but waste time
Cliche: haha
monAY (Observer): i will sometime but i normally work during em
toefungus: so times i hit
Dealer: maxxscam raises to $54
Dealer: Lester77 calls $27
Dealer: The river is [Kc]
toefungus: and 5 in a row
Cliche: wtg toe
Dealer: Lester77 checks
Dealer: maxxscam checks
Dealer: maxxscam shows two pair, Aces and Queens
Dealer: Lester77 shows a straight, Ace high
Dealer: Lester77 wins the pot ($132) with a straight, Ace high
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Old 08-02-2004, 07:05 PM #9 (permalink)  
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one of my best laydowns i actually figured he had KK

Dealer: Hand #2015765
Lester77: nh
Dealer: Lester77 posts the small blind of $1
Dealer: maxxscam posts the big blind of $2
Dealer: You have been dealt [Ad Qc]
Dealer: baller21 is feeling confused
Dealer: pablohoto folds
Dealer: baller21 folds
toefungus: ty
Cliche: WTG toe
Dealer: TickerSmart folds
Lester77: your lucky that wasn't a diamond
Lester77: AK
toefungus: yeah i think so
Dealer: Cliche has 15 seconds left to act
Lester77: dia
toefungus: your lucky
Dealer: Cliche calls $2
toefungus: i didnt go all in
Dealer: toefungus folds
Lester77: i wouldn't have called
Dealer: Perry Friedman raises to $9
Dealer: Lester77 folds
Dealer: maxxscam calls $7
toefungus: after the flop you might have
Cliche: well i tried to sneak one
Dealer: Cliche folds
Dealer: The flop is [Qh 4h 6c]
Dealer: maxxscam bets $4
Dealer: Perry Friedman raises to $33
toefungus: but i only bluff once a year
Lester77: doubtful k on turn
toefungus: and you caught me
Dealer: maxxscam has 15 seconds left to act
maxxscam: tough to lay this down
Perry Friedman: don't
toefungus: oh no
baller21: Man, Scotty NG got ran with that huge chip lead
Dealer: maxxscam folds
Dealer: Uncalled bet of $29 returned to Perry Friedman
Perry Friedman: I got the devil in me
Dealer: Perry Friedman shows [6s 6d]
Dealer: Perry Friedman wins the pot ($27.55)
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Old 08-02-2004, 07:07 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Some would say fold AQo to a big raise pre-flop in a cash game when the money is deep. Too difficult to know where you're at with it.
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Old 08-02-2004, 07:16 PM     Post subject: Re: a few hands to check out and let me know oif i fucked up #11 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by maxxscam
Dealer: toefungus is feeling happy
Well, since he was so happy after the big raise, I guess you gotta lay it down. Thats a convenient meter by the way!

Not sure how you can answer without knowing what these guys are all about, but here's what I think.

I like the first hand. His $4 raise pre-flop might is some indicator. How has he been betting AK, AQ. $4 ain't a very good raise that early, and you ought to pick up on what it means. Axs?? I don't like the bet on the flop. Anybody without an A is going to go for the free card, and the A has you beat. A steal bet from the button triggers the all-in, and you've got an easier decision to make. A free card could bring your set.

On the second hand, he's BB so he could have easily a 3, and if he does, he can't have a weaker kicker. I'd say a laydown would be the right play, but its easier to say now that we've seen the end. Again, alot depends on whether or not this guy is the kind to go balls to the wall on top two pair or worse.
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Old 08-02-2004, 07:24 PM #12 (permalink)  
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4 outers are killin me

Dealer: You have been dealt [Ah Qh]
Dealer: The flop is [Ac 2s Qd]
Dealer: maxxscam calls $6
Dealer: The turn is [Tc]
Dealer: Lester77 bets $27
Dealer: maxxscam raises to $54
Dealer: Lester77 calls $27
Dealer: Lester77 wins the pot ($132) with a straight, Ace high
I'd have trouble slowplaying top two pair, even if it is with AQ. I'm sure you wouldn't do it with a flush draw, and there's a good chance he's got at least a 4 card draw to it.

The $27 raise against a $105 in the pot is just about 3:1. It doesn't say what he had, but it was a bad call on his part, it should have taken him out, if he didn't already have the straight (doesn't show his hole cards, did he have KJ, or did the river K make his hand?
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Old 08-02-2004, 07:27 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Oh wait, now I see. The board was AQ2T when he hits his straight with the K. He had a jack. Did he have a 9 also? that gives him 9TJQ to the straight, so he's got 8 outs. I think you gotta go over the top by half pot to get him out of there.
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Old 08-02-2004, 08:05 PM #14 (permalink)  
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Dealer: Hand #2021814
Dealer: Shooter posts the small blind of $1
Dealer: Dick Reno posts the big blind of $2
Dealer: Ace7749 folds
Dealer: You have been dealt [Ah Qh]
Dealer: Carl Sandbag is feeling normal
Dealer: Perry Friedman folds
Ace7749: why
toefungus (Observer): so you can bust baller
Dealer: Nothar raises to $6
Dealer: maxxscam calls $6
Dealer: Carl Sandbag folds
toefungus (Observer): doubleup
Dealer: I_Eat_Fish folds
Dealer: baller21 folds
Ace7749: i will after i double up
Dealer: Shooter calls $5
toefungus (Observer): get to 400
Dealer: Dick Reno folds
Dealer: The flop is [Th 5h 2d]
toefungus (Observer): then bust perry
toefungus (Observer): then bust max
Ace7749: ive busted perry before
Dealer: Shooter checks
baller21: I figured this place out
Dealer: Nothar bets $14
Ace7749: its not hard .
toefungus (Observer): lol
Dealer: maxxscam raises to $40
baller21: Hit it hard and leave and come back with $80
Ace7749: well i checked overpair
toefungus (Observer): yeah
Dealer: Shooter raises to $71.40, and is all in
Ace7749: he hit top pair
Dealer: Nothar raises to $81.65, and is all in
Dealer: maxxscam calls $41.65
Ace7749: and he pushed
Shooter: oh lord
Dealer: The turn is [Qd]
Shooter: jack
Dealer: The river is [4d]
Shooter: jack
Dealer: Nothar shows a flush, Ace high
Dealer: maxxscam shows a pair of Queens
Dealer: Nothar wins the side pot ($20.50) with a flush, Ace high
Dealer: Shooter shows a pair of Tens
Dealer: Nothar wins the main pot ($231.20) with a flush, Ace high
Ace7749: lol not as lcky as your outdraw toe...
Dealer: Shooter is sitting out



ahhh im gonna cry
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Old 08-02-2004, 08:05 PM #15 (permalink)  
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he had AJ just as a i figured ace and lower kicker
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