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Old 02-08-2006, 11:15 PM     Post subject: Fast-playing costing me money? #1 (permalink)  
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I'm taking small stabs at 200nl. Maybe they just respect raises more?

Am I raising too much?

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UTG+1 ($159.85)
MP1 ($43.70)
MP2 ($109.45)
MP3 ($128.70)
Hero ($197)
Button ($53.05)
SB ($95.15)
BB ($373.90)
UTG ($63)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8, 6.
UTG calls $2, 4 folds, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($8) T, 7, K (4 players)
SB bets $2, BB folds, UTG calls $2, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($14) 9 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $6, Hero raises to $15, SB folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: $35



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UTG+1 ($200)
MP1 ($331.30)
MP2 ($372)
Hero ($200)
CO ($200)
Button ($204.15)
SB ($77.65)
BB ($122.35)
UTG ($172.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J, T. Hero posts a blind of $2. CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG raises to $8, 1 fold, MP1 calls $8, 1 fold, Hero (poster) calls $6, CO (poster) calls $6, 3 folds.

Flop: ($35) 9, 7, 8 (4 players)
UTG bets $12, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $40, CO folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: $87



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UTG ($198)
UTG+1 ($257.20)
MP1 ($51.45)
Hero ($195)
MP3 ($77.60)
CO ($86.50)
Button ($92.50)
SB ($200.85)
BB ($161.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8, 6. CO posts a blind of $3.
UTG calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, MP3 raises to $4, CO (poster) calls $2, 2 folds, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($26) 5, 7, T (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $6, Hero raises to $24, MP3 folds, CO folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: $56
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Old 02-09-2006, 12:51 AM #2 (permalink)  
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mmmm... first hand is okay. don't think UTG had much.


Second hand there's no need to raise hard. U got the nuts and it's likely to keep being the nuts. Villain is probably sitting on AK. Make a min-raise. Or you can flat call and raise the turn, but depending on read I would probably go for the less conventional min-raise the flop here.


Third hand... you can play it as you did. Or call and invite players into the pot. I'm happy to take a $30 pot with an unmade hand here. Why are you calling with that shit in MP2 tho?
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Old 02-09-2006, 04:25 AM #3 (permalink)  
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*smacks you for playing 200NL* Go play the fishfest that is 100NL.
 
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Old 02-09-2006, 04:51 AM #4 (permalink)  
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*smacks you for playing 200NL* Go play the fishfest that is 100NL.
What?? Are you crazy??????? NL100 is full of solid, experienced professionals.

Sorry, I had to.

Sometimes it amazes me how bad people are that are putting $100 (or whatever their partial buy-in is) on the line...
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Old 02-09-2006, 01:34 PM #5 (permalink)  
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hand 1

looks like no one hand anything strong here - as soon as sb checks UTG is probally just trying to steal/take the pot down here.


hand 2

your hoping he has an overpair here to get any more money from him with this raise - since your in position I would just call - if he bets on the turn I would call again - if he checks I would check - on the river what ever he does I might try a All-in "donkish play" or just try and extract some money out of him.

If I have shown the aggression preflop then I like to continue it on the flop - but with me just calling the preflop raise I would just call the agressor on the flop with that big a hand - (more times than not)


hand 3

always happy to take down a pot without a made hand.
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Old 02-09-2006, 08:59 PM #6 (permalink)  
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You're missing the part where the opponent feels ahead more often. How do intend on making them feel that way when you have the winning hand? You gotta loosen em up.

You know how in a rebuy tourney it pays to push any two hoping to suck out within the first few hands? Then you create a frenzy for your good hands? Same thing on a smaller scale, without the pushing all in.
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