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dsaxton

09-07-2005, 05:14 AM Post subject: The fake bluff.

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With the board pair I figured his outs were limited if he had top pair, so I decided to slow-play this a little on the flop and represent the flush draw, hoping he'd bet strong on the turn. On the turn I push all-in to look like a bluff with A-K of spades or something and he calls instantly. Kind of funny.

I took a risk if he was semi-bluffing, but I figured it could potentially pay off and it did.

PokerStars Game #2517621417: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/09/07 - 01:03:57 (ET)
Table 'Iphiklos IV' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: iamtufts ($40 in chips)
Seat 2: Laeelin ($31.05 in chips)
Seat 3: dmkai3 ($90 in chips)
Seat 4: dsaxton ($162.35 in chips)
Seat 5: skinnydigger ($58.40 in chips)
Seat 6: Todd11 ($99 in chips)
Seat 7: H. Diddy 13 ($42.65 in chips)
Seat 8: MegaLuck ($33.70 in chips)
Seat 9: Sharrpe95 ($190.20 in chips)
Sharrpe95: posts small blind $0.50
iamtufts: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dsaxton [Ac Ad]
Laeelin: folds
dmkai3: folds
dsaxton: raises $3 to $4
skinnydigger: folds
Todd11: folds
H. Diddy 13: folds
MegaLuck: folds
Sharrpe95: folds
iamtufts: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [7s 7c Js]
iamtufts: bets $8
dsaxton: calls $8
*** TURN *** [7s 7c Js] [4d]
iamtufts: checks
dsaxton: bets $150.35 and is all-in
iamtufts: calls $28 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [7s 7c Js 4d] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
iamtufts: shows [9c 9d] (two pair, Nines and Sevens)
dsaxton: shows [Ac Ad] (a full house, Aces full of Sevens)
dsaxton collected $77.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $80.50 | Rake $3
Board [7s 7c Js 4d Ah]
Seat 1: iamtufts (big blind) showed [9c 9d] and lost with two pair, Nines and Sevens
Seat 2: Laeelin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: dmkai3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: dsaxton showed [Ac Ad] and won ($77.50) with a full house, Aces full of Sevens
Seat 5: skinnydigger folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Todd11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: H. Diddy 13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: MegaLuck (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Sharrpe95 (small blind) folded before Flop

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Rondavu

09-08-2005, 12:27 PM

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I looked at this hand yesterday, and I can't figure out why your all in on the turn looks like a bluff, but for some reason it really does. Nice job.

This is something that a lot of players don't take advantage of in my opinion. I told a friend of mine that most of the time he shouldn't value bet a made flush on the turn or river, because against a lot of players it's less likely to get called than a big bet.

It's funny how the thought process of your opponent goes too...

"If he had a made hand he wouldn't bet that much, because he knows I wouldn't call", and then they call. Works constantly.

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PokerPatNEU

09-08-2005, 01:55 PM

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Yeah nh. When he checks the turn after leading out the flop, it's the perfect opportunity for a villain to bluff. Most pairs higher than 9 that raise pre flop here will value bet and probably earn themselves a fold....but for AK or AQ it's the perfect opportunity for a semi bluff push. Villain realizes this and takes the bait

lowBoy

09-08-2005, 03:34 PM

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I guess with opp's stack being relatively small this works out +EV, but what about the instances where he's holding a 7 and has at least a buy-in for a stack? You didn't include a read, so opp could be holding a 7 or JJ... those instances seem unlikely, but should you factor them in?

I do love the AI "bluff" with the strongest hand... the times it's been most successful is when I've been able to push AI a couple times in a short period either through having the nuts, or a nut draw, or what have you... then peopel think you're just crazy and will call you with substandard hands.

Laeelin

09-09-2005, 05:05 PM

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Whats really crazy is that so many people call a push with nothing more than a draw.

I sometimes use this myself.. Push and they become sure your on a draw and call with mid pair.

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