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Old 11-24-2007, 05:01 PM     Post subject: failed flop check #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars Game #13439281750: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/11/24 - 12:56:11 (ET)
Table 'Antiope V' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: ott2323 ($157.85 in chips)
Seat 2: Mighty Horse ($103.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Spagiari ($170.90 in chips)
Seat 4: reidak ($101 in chips)
Seat 5: philippe75 ($52.05 in chips)
Seat 6: tilt360 ($112.55 in chips)
Seat 7: juhu2000 ($15 in chips)
Seat 8: derfgolf ($161.60 in chips)
Seat 9: hamlann ($33.35 in chips)
ott2323: posts small blind $0.50
Mighty Horse: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to reidak [2s 2d]
Spagiari: folds
reidak: raises $2 to $3
philippe75: folds
tilt360: calls $3
juhu2000: folds
derfgolf: raises $8 to $11
hamlann: calls $11
ott2323: folds
Mighty Horse: calls $10
hamlann said, "plz fold.. i have nothing =("
reidak: calls $8
tilt360: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [9d Qc 2h]
Mighty Horse: checks
reidak: checks
tilt360: checks
derfgolf: checks
hamlann: checks
*** TURN *** [9d Qc 2h] [Ac]
Mighty Horse: checks
reidak: bets $17
tilt360: folds
derfgolf: calls $17
hamlann: folds
Mighty Horse: folds
*** RIVER *** [9d Qc 2h Ac] [6h]
reidak: bets $38

is there a better line here? did i play it too tricky
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:03 PM #2 (permalink)  
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oh man i should never have posted this butchery. be nice
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:04 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 you're 50/50 against his range
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 oh ya, there are more way to get dealt AA than AK
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:13 PM #5 (permalink)  
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i was more concerned with how i played my big hand there. theres what like $50 to start the pot? i felt me betting the flop would be super transparent. On the turn I don't want to blow out flush draws or medium aces
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:27 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Leading the flop small ($20) may not be transparent and one of the cold callers can easily have a Queen here. I wouldn't bet here though because Derf is going to bet a very large % of the time. Having this flop check through isn't a disaster though, the only draw is JT and you only have to bet 2 streets to get your stack in.
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:30 PM #7 (permalink)  
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okay maybe not so bad at all. i had the same line of thinking on the turn bet. how was my sizing? was i inviting too many people to the party? flush/straight draws ?
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was i inviting too many people to the party? flush/straight draws ?
I don't think so. They're not getting direct odds but may be getting implied odds depending on the card and how the action goes.

As for bet sizing I think it's pretty poor. I'd bet $30 on the turn and $60(all in) on the river. I don't think Derf is going to stack off very often with AK against these bets though, but I take that chance.
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:22 PM #9 (permalink)  
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don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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min-bet flop
fyp?
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min-bet flop
fyp?
perfect, i thought it went without saying!

another thought on the hand, I think you're ahead - AA won't be checking this flop
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:19 PM #12 (permalink)  
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 ffs bet the flop so we can get it in easy on later streets
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:24 PM #13 (permalink)  
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ffs bet the flop so we can get it in easy on later streets
lol it's a 5way 3bet pot, money can get in dawg
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