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Old 10-09-2006, 07:29 AM     Post subject: Facing river oooooooooooooover bet (2 pr) #1 (permalink)  
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My table image should be quite tight. FWIW 8Ts is a hand that I feel very comfortable raising in this situation.

I don't have a really good read on opp; tight preflop and may be a multitabler. I've seen him around a few times before and hasn't made a negative impression so we can assume that he doesn't totally suck.

So. This brings us to a good question: is it a wise call with my 2pr here?

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MP1 ($98.85)
Hero ($105.80)
CO ($89.80)
Button ($107)
SB ($109.35)
BB ($96.90)
UTG ($101.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with , .
1 fold, MP1 calls $1, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, BB calls $3, MP1 calls $3.

Flop: ($12.50) , , (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $7, BB calls $7, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($26.50) (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, BB calls $15.

River: ($56.50) (2 players)
BB bets $70.9 (All-In), Hero ....
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Old 10-09-2006, 01:41 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Ask yourself: if you made a straight on the end, and your opponent had bet pretty-big at you each time you checked, would you go all in right away?
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Old 10-09-2006, 02:37 PM #3 (permalink)  
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He might have hit 2 pair on the river???

Don't think this is a bluff.
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Old 10-09-2006, 04:22 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Betting big/pushing the river OOP into a player that has been leading strong the entire hand is very rarely a bluff.
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:09 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I bet bigger on the flop + turn and pot-commit by the river. I would also re-raise to 5x pre-flop if I thought I had lots of fold equity on the flop. Raising to 4x here is a pot builder.

Fold as played.
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:16 PM #6 (permalink)  
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So are we thinking JJ? or JT? I don't see KJ calling that flop unless they're both hearts... would a flopped set play this passively as more draws materialize?
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:27 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Well... when he pushed the river, I tanked and thought of two things:

1. Set of 4s. This seemed unlikely b/c of the increasing drawishness of the board. Plus if he was thinking he'd be against overs, he'd probably try to build the pot a bit faster.

2. Busted FD. It seems kind of strange that he would chase it, though.

No other hand (except perhaps JJ, which I didn't consider) really seemed to fit. 44 seemed highly remote so I put opp on a busted FD.

It was a busted FD... but he traded a showdown of for my stack.

Nice read/line of thought LeFou:

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Ask yourself: if you made a straight on the end, and your opponent had bet pretty-big at you each time you checked, would you go all in right away?
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Old 10-09-2006, 08:54 PM #8 (permalink)  
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You did this to yourself.
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