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Old 12-29-2009, 09:15 PM     Post subject: Epic Fail vs the same tard ? #1 (permalink)  
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villian is one of these 25/22/3 guys. 3bet% is 11% over 150 hands.
A few hands ago, i 3 bet with AK in SB, he flat-backshoved 100 BB deep with 77 and then i called off and lost my flip. This similar hand just happened at the same table shortly after the last AK hand but i had 145BB deep now. Show this fucking guy i'm not a pushover OR just surrender and move on to next promising hand??

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Old 12-29-2009, 10:11 PM #2 (permalink)  
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lol that sucks so bad, I call outta spite but its not like he is doing this with AQ...
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:22 PM #3 (permalink)  
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This is probably going to be a fold, but some more info would be useful. Who is UTG+1? If UTG + 1 is tight enough that MP1 would flat AK/QQ then it makes a lot of sense for him to hold them. I think it would need a hell of a lot of history to get him to do this with like AQs though so probably dump it. If UTG+1 is tight enough that flatting a "good" hand makes sense pre, then it makes it a really shitty squeeze spot for you so he has to have almost no respect for you for it to make sense.
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Old 12-29-2009, 11:02 PM #4 (permalink)  
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This is probably going to be a fold, but some more info would be useful. Who is UTG+1? If UTG + 1 is tight enough that MP1 would flat AK/QQ then it makes a lot of sense for him to hold them. I think it would need a hell of a lot of history to get him to do this with like AQs though so probably dump it. If UTG+1 is tight enough that flatting a "good" hand makes sense pre, then it makes it a really shitty squeeze spot for you so he has to have almost no respect for you for it to make sense.
This lag tard probably didnt pay attention to the players at all although UTG 1 is a nitty 12/9 regular. He played exactly the same way in the last AK hand and won the flip with 77. It just proves that we really need a big bankroll to play these games especially when you just lost your whole stack and got badass mental challenge.
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:11 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Yeah ok for some reason i was thinking of him as a 6max 25/22. Wouldnt you expect him to 3bet something good but not great that he was going to shove? It kinda looks like something slowplayed to me. If it were in the blinds then Id go for it, but with an EP raiser kicking it off and him just flatting the first time around... meh it really doesnt look like AQ. Id still fold it this deep. I havnt played FR in a while though.

Even if he is spaz shoving, hes risking $130 to win $20 so thats like 1:6.5 ish. So even if we wait until we are in the top 1/6 of our 3betting range to call of we will profit from his spaz. So we dont need to be worried about folding too often here at all. Obviously if we can see the cards and know we have enough equity vs his hand then we call, but I mean we cant possibly be folding an exploitable amount here. We can only ever be calling an exploitable amount.
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:25 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 is UTG+1 a fish?

this looks like a snap call tbh, though enjoy flipping or chopping - I hope you have a nice bankroll.
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Old 12-30-2009, 02:40 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 he has a mid pocket pair again. You got close odds on the call. How much do you like variance?
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Old 12-30-2009, 03:29 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 If he did shove with 77 before why are you 3 betting here? I wouldn't be very happy getting it in here this deep. Call his open and play some poker.


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