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spoonitnow
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04-22-2008, 04:28 PM
Post subject: EP Flop Aggressor Against LP PF caller
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Assume 100bb stacks.
Folds to us in UTG+1 and we open to 4xbb. Folds to 15/12 CO with 55% fold to cbet who calls. The blinds fold.
The pot is 9.5bb and the flop comes K  9  7.
1. What is our range?
2. What part of our range do we check/fold?
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I'm going to have a go at this!
1. 66+, AK, AJs+ and sometimes Axs or JTs+
2. 66, AJ/AQ (no two spades)
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d0zer
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1. 22+, AQ+, AJs+
2. On this flop, with me being the EP aggressor, I almost never c/f & c-bet almost always...
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1. 55+ AJs+ occasionally 22-44/SCs
2. Nothing I'm cbetting this flop 100% against almost everybody
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Vrax
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1. 88+, AQo+, AJs
2. Fold 88, TT-QQ if he bets strong, raise and stackoff with AK+, AsJs, AsQs, and bluffraise AJo, AQo some of the time.
But against this type of player, it's probably better to just c-bet for 3/4 pot, he folds often and we can represent credibly (King) without much risk of being ISF-theory-owned.
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Miffed22001
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Id bet any pair, any two high cards with a spade, and anything that hit the flop.
Fwiw, i dont raise 44/33/22 from here so c-betting those is irrelevant.
I fire a lot of second barrels on this board too.
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1. 22+, AQ+, AJs+, KQs (am I the only one who plays KQs here?)
2. I would normally want to cbet a lot here, but let's think about it.
Flop hits villain's range pretty well (he's not unlikely to have a hand with a K). I've used a default 7% PokerStove range as my basis with the lower pocket pairs added in for a total of 9.2%. This may be wide, but his position isn't half bad.
If villain calls a cbet I put him on: 99+,77,AKs,AsQs,AsJs,AsTs,KTs+,AKo
This is a 5.4% range, which doesn't chime exactly with a 55% fold to cbet stat, but I think it is correct with the consideration that I have AK, KQs, KJs and KTs in his range and they hit the flop.
Of these 5.4%, 5.3% beat a low pocket pair. There are almost no hands in his cbet calling range that are not pairs. This would lend credence to check/folding our 22-66+88, as well as AQo and AJs and AQs when not spades - as we would be behind if we cbet them and get called.
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Keilah
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AQ+, AJs+, 22+, sometimes SC76+
I see no reason to check/fold anything, this is a good enough board to cbet.
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Robb
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Originally Posted by d0zer
1. 22+, AQ+, AJs+
2. On this flop, with me being the EP aggressor, I almost never c/f & c-bet almost always...
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His 55% folds to cbet is perfect - he's pretty honest on the flop, if I have 200+ HH's on these stats. I'm firing a cbet with everything in my range. If I'm beat, he'll let me know.
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1.) 66+, ATs+, AJo+, JTs+ and random sc´s occassionally
2.) I cbet near 100% in EP
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Robb
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Vrax, the "it's poker not solitaire" quote in your signature is by Doyle Brunson. Opponent is Patrick Antonius. YouTube vid is linked here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nEVbzWbYQ-Q
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Vrax
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Originally Posted by Robb
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Yeah, I remember, 33 vs A2 preflop.
Origin of "Gus Bronson" is here:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...hlight=bronson
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"How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
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Robb
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Originally Posted by Vrax
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04-25-2008, 03:24 PM
Post subject: Re: EP Flop Aggressor Against LP PF caller
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Assume 100bb stacks.
Folds to us in UTG+1 and we open to 4xbb. Folds to 15/12 CO with 55% fold to cbet who calls. The blinds fold.
The pot is 9.5bb and the flop comes K 9 7 .
1. What is our range?
2. What part of our range do we check/fold? |
55% fold to c-bet so we can assume he floats a fair bit?
1. AQs+, 88+
2. I'm rarely check folding and probably two barrelling any non-spade.
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