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spoonitnow
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12-12-2006, 05:06 PM
Post subject: Easy fold with KK?
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Straight Flush
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Villian is 20/4/8 over 150 hands.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($27.25)
UTG ($24.15)
MP1 ($22.55)
MP2 ($24.15)
CO ($17.60)
Button ($4.60)
SB ($58.75)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K , K .
UTG calls $0.25, MP1 raises to $0.75, 4 folds, Hero raises to $3, UTG raises to $5.25, MP1 folds, Hero calls $2.25.
Flop: ($11.35) 9 , 8, 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, UTG raises to $18.9, Hero ...
Despite the pot odds, I think I'm beat here. Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
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Warpe
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Looks like aces.
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spoonitnow
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Villian has Q8o, but is it still objectively good to fold (probably preflop?)
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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ville18
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Straight
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lol, if he has Q8, push obv, noob.
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Warpe
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Didn't notice his AF....no, I'm not folding here when he's that aggro postflop. It's also a freakin' minraise preflop, so I'm not giving that a lot of respect.
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Pelion
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cant fold if hes that aggro
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Muzzard
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Why are you not pushing this preflop?
If he turns over aces, fair play. But at 25NL worse hands will call you
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Alexos
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No way you fold preflop, this guy is wayyy too aggro. Easy push on flop also, imo.
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Miffed22001
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i have stacke off preflop.
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bode
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Straight Flush
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AF=8=i dont fold
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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DaNutsInYoEye
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wtf? How do you consider folding this given the PF action?
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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lolzzz_321
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NO YOU
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HE PUT HIM ON AA DNUTS
GO AI PREFLOP
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Eric
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There is $36.25 in the pot and it only costs $12.90 to play. Those pot odds of almost 3:1 make it difficult to fold even though there is a good chance you're beat. So no, this is not an easy fold for me. Depending on the opponent I might fold...but it would not be easy.
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Setzy
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Does nobody else give credit that the villain limped and re-raised over 2 raises? 20/4 over 150 hands, 4% of hands raised? Come on... I think a reraise/push preflop is in order. That is...if you're willing to go all the way.
I'm with Warpe, it does look like aces...but I don't think I can lay this one down on this board as played. I don't like the flop lead either, either more or check.
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Save your stories 'cuz they're all the same..
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Warpe
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Originally Posted by Setzy
I'm with Warpe, it does look like aces...
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...maybe.
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spoonitnow
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So what if his AF is actually 1.5, how does that change things?
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Halv
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Sucks ass, but when a 4%PFR'er does this I just might call for (marginal) set value. Him being so aggro postflop, he's probably gonna stack off every time my K comes.
As played I'm getting stacked on the flop.
With a low AF I push preflop (as he won't bluff his stack to me postflop when I'm good).
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