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Old 07-08-2006, 06:14 PM     Post subject: Donking #1 (permalink)  
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Hero ($101.20)
UTG ($112.50)
UTG+1 ($90.50)
UTG+2 ($133.95)
MP1 ($107.95)
MP2 ($37.25)
MP3 ($61)
CO ($60.05)
Button ($71.80)
SB ($48.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, K. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
4 folds, MP2 raises to $5, 4 folds, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($10.50) T, J, 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $7, MP2 calls $7.

Turn: ($24.50) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $15, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: $39.50
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Old 07-08-2006, 06:24 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I don't really like doing this against shorties... but if I'm going to I'd just push the turn.

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 i probably woulda pitched it preflop (nit)
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i probably woulda pitched it preflop (nit)
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Old 07-08-2006, 10:16 PM #5 (permalink)  
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i probably woulda pitched it preflop (nit)
Thats not nitty, thats smart.
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Old 07-08-2006, 10:26 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Against a full stack donking here is fine. Against a short stack, I'd just c/r all in on the flop.
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Old 07-08-2006, 10:28 PM #7 (permalink)  
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i probably woulda pitched it preflop (nit)
Thats not nitty, thats smart.
I pitch it against some people
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Old 07-09-2006, 12:20 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Lets examine as much as we can.

-MP2 is a SS, so unless he has been giving his chips away, his raising requirements are higher.
-You are out of position.
-You bet over 2/3 of the pot OOP and got called post-flop.
-A scare card makes a 4-card straight possible, we can't put opponent on 9.

I would try to recall whether or not this guy could make a fold on scary boards and how tight his preflop raising was. I don't like being out of position here either, because AK(s), AA, AJ, KK, QQ, JJ, and TT could all play the flop like that. If he went all-in you'd have to call, but your pot odds would be break-even at best.

I would like this play more against a full stack and/or with position.
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Old 07-09-2006, 03:57 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 i think youre losing money with this in the long run. im also dumping this to the raise PF.
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Old 07-09-2006, 06:39 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Against a full stack donking here is fine. Against a short stack, I'd just c/r all in on the flop.
I agree, after I folded preflop (unless this guy was a real loose opener).
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