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Old 08-13-2006, 04:27 AM     Post subject: Do I Check-Bomb Goot? #1 (permalink)  
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I've seen several people talking lately of "check-bombing" the turn with overpairs. Is this the correct situation? Either way I'd like to know some other spots it's good to use it with. This is an unknown btw...

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9 players

Stack sizes:
Hero: $9.70
UTG+1: $9.70
MP1: $10.95
MP2: $12.50
MP3: $9.15
CO: $3.55
Button: $12.85
SB: $4.10
BB: $12.95

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with
Hero raises to $0.4, 3 folds, MP3 calls, 4 folds.

Flop: ($0.95, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.7, MP3 raises to $2, Hero calls.

Turn: ($4.95, 2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $2, Hero raises all-in $7.3, MP3 calls all-in $4.75.
Uncalled bets: $0.55 returned to Hero.

River: ($18.45, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $18.45)


Results:
Final pot: $18.45
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Old 08-13-2006, 04:37 AM     Post subject: Re: Do I Check-Bomb Goot? #3 (permalink)  
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Old 08-13-2006, 09:20 AM #6 (permalink)  
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I've seen several people talking lately of "check-bombing" the turn with overpairs
Re-raise all-In the flop. Don't worry about "no better hands fold" saying, it applies to decent tight players. And on $10NL you hardly deal with decent tight players. Pay off boat and trips, and get paid by a lot of other crap.

About checkbombing turn:
The correct situation can be everytime you think you have best hand, you think he will call with worse hands on turn (by feeling "pot commited" ) and you are pretty sure that he'll bet at your "weakness".
It works best against floaters and over aggro players. Floaters smoothcall flop and may fire on turn after you check. Then you trap their top pair ass with AI and make them draw to their 5-outer for all their chips. It also sends clear message for table "Dont mess with me because I don't need set to play for stacks".

Overplayers OTOH will raise & go broke with 88ish hands, on $10NL you deal mostly with overplayers not advanced floaters, so maybe re-raising all-In would be slightly better option.
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Overplayers OTOH will raise & go broke with 88ish hands, on $10NL you deal mostly with overplayers not advanced floaters, so maybe re-raising all-In would be slightly better option.
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Fnord ($103.15)
UTG ($63.55)
MP ($70.30)
Button ($311.15)
SB ($28.75)

Preflop: Fnord is BB with A, A.
1 fold, MP raises to $3, 2 folds, Fnord raises to $9, MP calls $6.

Flop: ($18.50) 7, T, 7 (2 players)
Fnord bets $12, MP calls $12.

Turn: ($42.50) 4 (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP bets $15, Fnord raises to $50, MP calls $34.30 (All-In).

River: ($141.80) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $141.80

Results in white below:
Fnord has Ac Ad (two pair, aces and sevens).
MP has 8h 8d (two pair, eights and sevens).
Outcome: Fnord wins $141.80.
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Overplayers OTOH will raise & go broke with 88ish hands, on $10NL you deal mostly with overplayers not advanced floaters, so maybe re-raising all-In would be slightly better option.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Fnord ($103.15)
UTG ($63.55)
MP ($70.30)
Button ($311.15)
SB ($28.75)

Preflop: Fnord is BB with A, A.
1 fold, MP raises to $3, 2 folds, Fnord raises to $9, MP calls $6.

Flop: ($18.50) 7, T, 7 (2 players)
Fnord bets $12, MP calls $12.

Turn: ($42.50) 4 (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP bets $15, Fnord raises to $50, MP calls $34.30 (All-In).

River: ($141.80) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $141.80

Results in white below:
Fnord has Ac Ad (two pair, aces and sevens).
MP has 8h 8d (two pair, eights and sevens).
Outcome: Fnord wins $141.80.
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 I'm always scared to check the turn on a 2-flush board after being called on flop. Even though the board is paired, lots of players like to draw to flushes and take free cards on the turn. Isn't the check bomb a bit risky in these cases?

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