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kc8986

08-24-2005, 11:22 PM Post subject: Did I whimp out too soon?

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In the HH below, I folded after the guy called, then raised me on the turn. I usually play tight, and I expected he placed me on top pair, so when he raised, I placed him on two pair.

***** Hand History for Game 2587821832 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, August 24, 01:04:14 EDT 2005
Table Table 36769 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: BlueDog86 ( $15.45 )
Seat 4: kc8986 ( $62.80 )
Seat 6: MoeRawn ( $65.30 )
Seat 7: kevdeb111 ( $51.90 )
Seat 8: artofpoker9 ( $41.25 )
Seat 9: bonairerules ( $73 )
Seat 1: yomjl13 ( $7.75 )
Seat 10: atmakarma ( $24.85 )
Seat 2: bbb09 ( $50.75 )
Seat 5: goalbyrick ( $49.50 )
bbb09 posts small blind [$0.25].
kc8986 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to kc8986 [ Ad Qs ]
goalbyrick folds.
MoeRawn folds.
kevdeb111 calls [$0.50].
artofpoker9 folds.
bonairerules calls [$0.50].
atmakarma folds.
yomjl13 folds.
bbb09 calls [$0.25].
kc8986 raises [$1].
kevdeb111 calls [$1].
bonairerules calls [$1].
bbb09 calls [$1].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, 7d, Qh ]
bbb09 checks.
kc8986 bets [$2.50].
kevdeb111 folds.
bonairerules calls [$2.50].
bbb09 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]
kc8986 bets [$3].
bonairerules raises [$8].
kc8986 folds.
bonairerules does not show cards.
bonairerules wins $21.15

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greyishhue

08-24-2005, 11:32 PM

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Did you have notes on the player and what was his betting history on the table?

kc8986

08-24-2005, 11:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by greyishhue

Did you have notes on the player and what was his betting history on the table?

I had only been at the table for about 15 or so hands and he seemed to be one of the stronger players and didn't play many hands, but won the ones he did play.

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Rondavu

08-25-2005, 04:40 PM

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He probably had two pair QJ. Not a bad fold with a solid read.

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Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.

Rondavu

08-25-2005, 04:43 PM

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He probably had two pair QJ. Not a bad fold with a solid read.

It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.

EricE

08-25-2005, 04:50 PM

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Full House

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He limped PF so he might hold QJ or he might have 22, 77. Given the limp I would not put him on a strong Q. Good fold I think.

Stakes: Playing $0.10/$0.25 NL

storm75m

08-25-2005, 04:51 PM

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good laydown, only suggestion I have is to raise a little more preflop to get rid of the trash hands.

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BIGandRICH

08-27-2005, 04:03 PM

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yeh definately raise more preflop.. even though your in early position.. with 3 others already in a min raise wont get any respect, if your not prepared to raise more out of position, dont raise at all.

villain goes AI
i call with a set (i have him owned)
i win pot
villain: **** this, this site is bullshit, ******* rigged, suck out ****

BIGandRICH

08-27-2005, 04:21 PM

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also you bet 3 into a $9 pot (not accounting for rake).. which is pretty weak, he may have sensed a weakness and raised you for that reason. I do this to alot of people. I'm a pretty aggressive player post flop though, you need a good player read.

I posted this hand on another thread so you may have seen it.. but as an example of a way i did to someone what he may have done to you...

POKERSTARS GAME #2426634102: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/08/26 - 11:11:16 (ET)
Table 'Silesia' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Biff ($12.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Stag Man ($19.60 in chips)
Seat 3: ManlyMan ($52.20 in chips)
Seat 4: Scott Owen ($76.85 in chips)
Seat 5: LouieTheBook ($66.80 in chips)
Seat 6: doc3232 ($21.50 in chips)
Seat 7: 90 Corvette ($86.05 in chips)
Seat 9: howley22 ($26.50 in chips)
LouieTheBook: posts small blind $0.25
doc3232: posts big blind $0.50
marcsavard27: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scott Owen [Qh Ac]
90 Corvette: raises $1.50 to $2
howley22: calls $2
Biff: folds
Stag Man: folds
ManlyMan has timed out
ManlyMan: folds
ManlyMan is sitting out
Scott Owen: calls $2
LouieTheBook: folds
doc3232: folds
*** FLOP *** [7c 5c 2h]
90 Corvette: bets $3
howley22: folds
Scott Owen: calls $3
*** TURN *** [7c 5c 2h] [Js]
90 Corvette: bets $5
Scott Owen: raises $15 to $20
90 Corvette: folds
Scott Owen collected $21.65 from pot
Scott Owen: shows [Qh Ac] (high card Ace)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $22.75 | Rake $1.10
Board [7c 5c 2h Js]
Seat 1: Biff folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Stag Man folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ManlyMan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Scott Owen (button) collected ($21.65)

obviously you need a read to justify calling/raising though... but if you were to bet more on the turn you'd have better info, if you bet $6-7 into $9 and he still raises you, he has a hand.

villain goes AI
i call with a set (i have him owned)
i win pot
villain: **** this, this site is bullshit, ******* rigged, suck out ****

kc8986

08-28-2005, 09:51 PM

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Thanks everyone for all the analysis and advice; this has been very helpful.

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DaNutsInYoEye

08-29-2005, 06:20 AM

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Unless you're playing in a game that people will fold to a 2X BB raise the only thing you are doing is wasting a bet while giving people more incentive to draw at a larger pot on the flop.

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