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ton321
Old 08-04-2007, 03:58 PM     Post subject: did i butcher this hand? #1 (permalink)  

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POKERSTARS GAME #11304678233: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/08/04 - 11:40:24 (ET)
I had caught a few hands recently, and everyone was folding to my raises, so i thought i would mix it up by open limping utg with jj

Table 'Arabella' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Shakaa450 ($31.05 in chips)
Seat 2: MightyMonkey ($12.80 in chips)
Seat 3: axel_paulsen ($20.90 in chips)
Seat 4: laborit ($28.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Monolake ($26.05 in chips)
Seat 6: Ton321 ($35.70 in chips)
Seat 7: PedroPepper ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 8: LaMoucate ($22.20 in chips)
Seat 9: N00B2007 ($24.65 in chips)
laborit: posts small blind $0.10
Monolake: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ton321 [Jh Jd]
Ton321: calls $0.25
PedroPepper: raises $0.75 to $1
LaMoucate: folds
N00B2007: folds
Shakaa450: folds
MightyMonkey: folds
axel_paulsen: folds
laborit: folds
Monolake: calls $0.75
Ton321: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [Ts 7s Qd]
Monolake: checks
Ton321: checks
PedroPepper: bets $1.25
Monolake: folds
Ton321: raises $1.25 to $2.50
I tried to gauge how strong he was by doing this

PedroPepper: calls $1.25
*** TURN *** [Ts 7s Qd] [7c]
Ton321: bets $2
PedroPepper: calls $2
then i thought am i being taken for a ride with aa,kk,qq?
*** RIVER *** [Ts 7s Qd 7c] [8h]
Ton321: checks
PedroPepper: bets $3
Ton321: folds
if there hadnt been the queen on the board i probably would have gritted my teeth and called
PedroPepper collected $11.55 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.10 | Rake $0.55
Board [Ts 7s Qd 7c 8h]
Seat 1: Shakaa450 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: MightyMonkey folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: axel_paulsen (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: laborit (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Monolake (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Ton321 folded on the River
Seat 7: PedroPepper collected ($11.55)
Seat 8: LaMoucate folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: N00B2007 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 08-04-2007, 04:23 PM #2 (permalink)  
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did i butcher this hand?
yes
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Old 08-04-2007, 04:30 PM #3 (permalink)  

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min raising on that flop does not find out where youre at/how strong he is

min raising on the flop is def the worst play you can make in nl hold em

it screams "i am weak and dont have the balls to bluff"

or "send me to value town"
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Old 08-04-2007, 04:31 PM     Post subject: Re: did i butcher this hand? #4 (permalink)  
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PokerStars GAME #11304678233: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/08/04 - 11:40:24 (ET)
I had caught a few hands recently, and everyone was folding to my raises, so i thought i would mix it up by open limping utg with jj
this is flawed. Dont ever open limp a hand like JJ. If you had been raising alot and no one called, then keep raising and they will think you are doing it with some trash hand.

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Table 'Arabella' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Shakaa450 ($31.05 in chips)
Seat 2: MightyMonkey ($12.80 in chips)
Seat 3: axel_paulsen ($20.90 in chips)
Seat 4: laborit ($28.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Monolake ($26.05 in chips)
Seat 6: Ton321 ($35.70 in chips)
Seat 7: PedroPepper ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 8: LaMoucate ($22.20 in chips)
Seat 9: N00B2007 ($24.65 in chips)
laborit: posts small blind $0.10
Monolake: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ton321 [Jh Jd]
Ton321: calls $0.25
PedroPepper: raises $0.75 to $1
LaMoucate: folds
N00B2007: folds
Shakaa450: folds
MightyMonkey: folds
axel_paulsen: folds
laborit: folds
Monolake: calls $0.75
Ton321: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [Ts 7s Qd]
Monolake: checks
Ton321: checks
PedroPepper: bets $1.25
Monolake: folds
Ton321: raises $1.25 to $2.50
I tried to gauge how strong he was by doing this
you didnt. All you did was give him odds to call with all kinds of weak pairs, draws, etc.

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PedroPepper: calls $1.25
*** TURN *** [Ts 7s Qd] [7c]
Ton321: bets $2
PedroPepper: calls $2
then i thought am i being taken for a ride with aa,kk,qq?
no, probly just some semi-strong queen.

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*** RIVER *** [Ts 7s Qd 7c] [8h]
Ton321: checks
PedroPepper: bets $3
Ton321: folds
if there hadnt been the queen on the board i probably would have gritted my teeth and called
PedroPepper collected $11.55 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.10 | Rake $0.55
Board [Ts 7s Qd 7c 8h]
Seat 1: Shakaa450 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: MightyMonkey folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: axel_paulsen (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: laborit (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Monolake (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Ton321 folded on the River
Seat 7: PedroPepper collected ($11.55)
Seat 8: LaMoucate folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: N00B2007 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
lesson learned. Play aggressive poker and put your opponents to a decision instead of the weak/passive play demonstrated here.
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Old 08-04-2007, 10:29 PM #5 (permalink)  
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JJ limp/called in EP is supposed to get ugly if u dont spike a J on the flop.

min c/r costs lots of chips, so does your 1/4 lead on turn. raise pre next time, there are better spots to mix it up.
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Old 08-04-2007, 10:54 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 Just raise preflop, bet the flop and then take it from there.

You butchered this hand beyond recognition.

Tell me exactly why you wanted to "mix it up" preflop?
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:48 AM #7 (permalink)  
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did i butcher this hand?
yes
more like holy shit reading that hand hurt my fucking brain

just picking on you ton, i promise i've likely done worse in a hand this week at some point
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