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LeFou
Old 03-08-2006, 06:55 PM     Post subject: Devil's Advocate #1 (permalink)  
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You are ova568

Level 2 of 45-player $10 SNG
ova568: 1450
LeFou: 2110

blinds 15/30
You're UTG,
LeFou is BB

You limp, SB(donraven) completes. LeFou makes it 90. You both call

*** FLOP *** [ ]
Pot: 315
donraven: checks
LeFou : checks
ova568: checks
*** TURN *** [:Qd:]
Pot: 315
donraven: checks
LeFou : checks
ova568: bets 150
donraven: folds
LeFou : raises 350 to 500
ova568: calls 350
*** RIVER *** [2d 4c 7c Qd] [6s]
Pot: 1315
LeFou puts you in for your 900

1. call?
2. What are you putting LeFou on here? You have no real history with him.
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Old 03-08-2006, 07:06 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I'm betting the flop in ova568's place, but regardless...

I'm putting you on AQ/KQ and you paired-up on the turn.

And no I'm not calling...
 
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Old 03-08-2006, 07:07 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I may pay off lefou here with 99 if I have no history with him. I would have to find out he's tricky the hard way.
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Old 03-08-2006, 07:11 PM #4 (permalink)  
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id call if i was feeling frisky.
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Old 03-08-2006, 07:16 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I bet flop. If called, check behind on turn. If raised, I fold.
I fold turn to check-raise.
On the river I punch myself in the head for being a donk and fold.

I peg LeFou as a donk for raising 3x with blinds so low and 2 limpers in front. AA, KK are a concern. AK, AQ or 55+ are also possible. If so it's played poorly and I hope I get to play another hand with him to take the chips back before someone else knocks him out.
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Old 03-08-2006, 07:43 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I peg LeFou as a donk for raising 3x with blinds so low and 2 limpers in front. AA, KK are a concern. AK, AQ or 55+ are also possible. If so it's played poorly ...
Hm.
If the cards are AK, AQ, 55+ they were played poorly
If they were played well, what are they?
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Old 03-08-2006, 07:59 PM #7 (permalink)  
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hmm. I like a raise preflop at a tight table. As played, flop should be an auto-bet for our hero here. Lol, only half the deck are scare cards, if not more...

I fold this river in hero's place. I like a dump to the turn c/r too. Betting the flop just makes things so much easier. Villain's (LeFou's) line of raise from BB, check flop, c/r turn, push river should just send of alarm bells all over the place.

LeFou, regardless of the cards, should absolutely raise more preflop if he chooses to do so.
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Old 03-08-2006, 09:47 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Hm.
If the cards are AK, AQ, 55+ they were played poorly
If they were played well, what are they?
I can't think of anything.

I raise more pre-flop, I c-bet that flop with AQ, KQ, set, occasionaly a flush draw to prevent a flush draw, also to see if anyone likes it. I don't check the turn if I like it because it's possible he checks behing again.

Maybe I can't think outside the box. Unless you have a read that says Hero likes to check when ahead, bet when possibley behind, it looks very poor. If that's your read it doesn't matter the hand.

...

On second thought heros play looks weak pre-flop, weak post-flop, steal then weak on turn. But again, if LeFou is playing that then it doesn't matter what hero has.

Like Lukie said, this splashing of chips sets off alarms. Unless Hero has a read that LeFou likes to do this alot, then I might call.
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