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Old 06-22-2005, 04:34 AM     Post subject: The definition of chasing. #1 (permalink)  
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I didn't raise the turn because I thought futbol's flop overcall was a bit suspicious and that making a big raise might be suicide. I couldn't believe it when I found out he was just chasing. On a K, Q, 8, 8 board no less, after I've made it known I have a big pair.

PokerStars Game #1947740164: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/06/22 - 00:15:29 (ET)
Table 'Clementina' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: futbol11 ($156.70 in chips)
Seat 2: GTCash ($48 in chips)
Seat 4: dsaxton ($157.15 in chips)
Seat 6: glamgrl ($51.55 in chips)
Seat 7: Bob_O22 ($103.70 in chips)
Seat 8: 155 Lincoln ($74.45 in chips)
Seat 9: Chunga2145 ($96 in chips)
Bob_O22: posts small blind $0.50
155 Lincoln: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dsaxton [Ah Ac]
Chunga2145: folds
futbol11: calls $1
GTCash: calls $1
dele ace has returned
dsaxton: raises $5 to $6
glamgrl: folds
Bob_O22: folds
155 Lincoln: folds
futbol11: calls $5
GTCash: calls $5
*** FLOP *** [Qd 8d Kc]
futbol11: checks
GTCash: bets $5
dsaxton: raises $10 to $15
futbol11: calls $15
GTCash: calls $10
*** TURN *** [Qd 8d Kc] [8c]
futbol11: checks
GTCash: bets $27 and is all-in
dsaxton: calls $27
futbol11: calls $27
*** RIVER *** [Qd 8d Kc 8c] [6d]
futbol11: bets $41
dsaxton: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
futbol11: shows [Ad 9d] (a flush, Ace high)
GTCash: mucks hand
futbol11 collected $142.50 from pot
dsaxton said, "oh my god"
155 Lincoln said, "????"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $145.50 | Rake $3
Board [Qd 8d Kc 8c 6d]
Seat 1: futbol11 showed [Ad 9d] and won ($142.50) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: GTCash mucked [Kh 3h]
Seat 4: dsaxton folded on the River
Seat 6: glamgrl (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Bob_O22 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: 155 Lincoln (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Chunga2145 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:52 AM #2 (permalink)  
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His play up until the turn is good, he was just too stuborn to throw his hand away and made a bad call that turned into gold.

Not that bad of a chase...
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:23 PM #3 (permalink)  
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You get a lot of those people that won't let go of a flush draw for the life of them. In the long term, you are making money from them, you played this hand well and it will work for more often than not, this hand just sucked.
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:47 PM #4 (permalink)  
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IMO the guy playing K3s is even more pathetic. Put both of them on your buddy list.
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Old 06-22-2005, 07:13 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I would like to redefine chasing for you: a guy this morning fired out a pot-sized bet of $4 on a flop of JT8. I held 79 suited in late position and happily re-raised him to $15. He called. The turn was another 8; he bet big, I raised, he went all in and I called. The river was a king. He held... K8. I'd say calling a massive re-raise with bottom pair/decent kicker is chasing of a sort that makes flush chasing look downright sensible.
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:45 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Well....I hate to be the bearer of pot odds....but his play was not *terrible*

He was just scraping by on the flop call, however the call behind him boosted the odds in his favor.....

On the turn IF and only IF he thought his A was still live for some reason....he was scraping by on pot odds to make that call with 2 $27 bets before him.......

The flop he had good odds, turn is questionable........

Just my 0.02
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:53 AM #7 (permalink)  
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If you factor in the fact that he could be drawing completely dead, I think the turn call is pretty absurd.
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:55 AM #8 (permalink)  
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If you factor in the fact that he could be drawing completely dead, I think the turn call is pretty absurd.
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:56 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Here's chasing: I have 66 in LP today, call a raise, the flop comes T6T. Beautiful. I raise it hard on the flop and hard on the turn because I dont want to get sucked out on again. He calls the $15 flop raise with KQo, hits a Q on the turn, and calls a $20 raise on the the turn. The river brings another ten, he bets $5, i call it and he calls me a sucker.
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:32 AM #10 (permalink)  
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***** Hand History for Game 2198503655 *****
$400 NL Hold'em - Sunday, June 12, 22:33:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 48851 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: farmedfish ( $390 )
Seat 2: xcuseme_miss ( $464.2 )
Seat 3: sgwolf ( $449.1 )
Seat 5: DMFG26 ( $378 )
Seat 6: PlumcoSweets ( $233.5 )
Seat 4: youngdallas ( $80 )
DMFG26 posts small blind [$2].
PlumcoSweets posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to farmedfish [ Ac Kd ]
farmedfish raises [$14].
xcuseme_miss folds.
sgwolf calls [$14].
DMFG26 folds.
PlumcoSweets folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, 2h, 7s ]
farmedfish bets [$26].
>You have options at Table 48823 (6 max) Table!.
sgwolf calls [$26].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
farmedfish checks.
>You have options at Table 48823 (6 max) Table!.
sgwolf bets [$100].
farmedfish is all-In.
sgwolf calls [$250].
** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
>You have options at Table 48823 (6 max) Table!.
sgwolf shows [ 9s, Ts ] a pair of fours.
farmedfish shows [ Ac, Kd ] a pair of fours.
farmedfish wins $784 from the main pot with a pair of fours with ace kic
 
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Old 06-23-2005, 03:12 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Nice read and nice play, bmx. I wish you posted more, you have a great mind that I'd like to rape before moving up again.
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Old 06-23-2005, 03:30 AM #12 (permalink)  
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I've been a fish lately it seems. Along w/ exams that i should be studying for i haven't been playing much poker.
 
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Old 06-23-2005, 03:16 PM #13 (permalink)  
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***** Hand History for Game 2198503655 *****
$400 NL Hold'em - Sunday, June 12, 22:33:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 48851 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: farmedfish ( $390 )
Seat 2: xcuseme_miss ( $464.2 )
Seat 3: sgwolf ( $449.1 )
Seat 5: DMFG26 ( $378 )
Seat 6: PlumcoSweets ( $233.5 )
Seat 4: youngdallas ( $80 )
DMFG26 posts small blind [$2].
PlumcoSweets posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to farmedfish [ Ac Kd ]
farmedfish raises [$14].
xcuseme_miss folds.
sgwolf calls [$14].
DMFG26 folds.
PlumcoSweets folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, 2h, 7s ]
farmedfish bets [$26].
>You have options at Table 48823 (6 max) Table!.
sgwolf calls [$26].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
farmedfish checks.
>You have options at Table 48823 (6 max) Table!.
sgwolf bets [$100].
farmedfish is all-In.
sgwolf calls [$250].
** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
>You have options at Table 48823 (6 max) Table!.
sgwolf shows [ 9s, Ts ] a pair of fours.
farmedfish shows [ Ac, Kd ] a pair of fours.
farmedfish wins $784 from the main pot with a pair of fours with ace kic
Can someone explain to me how this can ever happen ... with either hand?
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Old 06-23-2005, 06:42 PM #14 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bmxicle
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***** Hand History for Game 2198503655 *****
$400 NL Hold'em - Sunday, June 12, 22:33:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 48851 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: farmedfish ( $390 )
Seat 2: xcuseme_miss ( $464.2 )
Seat 3: sgwolf ( $449.1 )
Seat 5: DMFG26 ( $378 )
Seat 6: PlumcoSweets ( $233.5 )
Seat 4: youngdallas ( $80 )
DMFG26 posts small blind [$2].
PlumcoSweets posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to farmedfish [ Ac Kd ]
farmedfish raises [$14].
xcuseme_miss folds.
sgwolf calls [$14].
DMFG26 folds.
PlumcoSweets folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, 2h, 7s ]
farmedfish bets [$26].
>You have options at Table 48823 (6 max) Table!.
sgwolf calls [$26].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
farmedfish checks.
>You have options at Table 48823 (6 max) Table!.
sgwolf bets [$100].
farmedfish is all-In.
sgwolf calls [$250].
** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
>You have options at Table 48823 (6 max) Table!.
sgwolf shows [ 9s, Ts ] a pair of fours.
farmedfish shows [ Ac, Kd ] a pair of fours.
farmedfish wins $784 from the main pot with a pair of fours with ace kic
Can someone explain to me how this can ever happen ... with either hand?
the higher you get in stakes, the more people play high cards .. at least that is what it is at the limit tables.

im kinda surprised by it as well... bmx has a read, his read was g00t he got paid.
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Old 06-23-2005, 11:07 PM #15 (permalink)  
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I read that he was bluffing so i came over the top of him to make him fold because i gave him some credit for not being a total douchebag.

I was really annoyed with myself when he called because i thought i made the wrong play until i saw what he called me with.

I guess he was a total douchebag though.
 
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Old 06-24-2005, 12:25 AM #16 (permalink)  
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Here is a fucking gem

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$100 NL Hold'em - Thursday, June 23, 20:22:14 EDT 2005
Table Table 37104 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: dirtyfrankpj ( $156.62 )
Seat 6: SmackinYaUp ( $106.28 )
Seat 1: JEFANDNIKO ( $150.62 )
Seat 3: Pokerhotep ( $135.5 )
Pokerhotep posts small blind [$0.5].
SmackinYaUp posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmackinYaUp [ 9s 9c ]
JEFANDNIKO folds.
dirtyfrankpj calls [$1].
Pokerhotep calls [$0.5].
SmackinYaUp raises [$3].
dirtyfrankpj calls [$3].
Pokerhotep folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, 8d, 4d ]
SmackinYaUp bets [$6].
dirtyfrankpj calls [$6].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
SmackinYaUp bets [$9].
dirtyfrankpj calls [$9].
** Dealing River ** [ Th ]
SmackinYaUp bets [$9].
dirtyfrankpj raises [$18].
SmackinYaUp calls [$9].
dirtyfrankpj shows [ Js, Qd ] a straight, eight to queen.
SmackinYaUp doesn't show [ 9s, 9c ] three of a kind, nines.
dirtyfrankpj wins $73 from the main pot with a straight, eight to queen.
Pokerhotep has left the table.
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