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Greedo017
Old 06-03-2005, 07:08 AM     Post subject: deep stacks, your move? #1 (permalink)  
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 My stack was 150, sitegold1's was 140, in .5/1 NL.

Hero is dealt 5h, 5c

sitegold1 posts small blind .5
buckeyestud posts big blind 1
hoken1 folds
jhjjenson calls for 1
chapelmaster folds
Hero calls for 1
tyc00n folds
gardenmole calls for 1
setomidor folds
stygg folds
sitegold1 calls for .50
buckeyestud checks

Dealing Flop 8h, Js, 5d

sitegold1 checks
buckeyestud checks
jhjjenson checks
hero checks
gardenmole checks

Dealing Turn 8h, Js, 5d, 4c

sitegold1 checks
buckeyestud checks
jhjjenson checks
hero bets 2.00
gardenmole folds
sitegold1 calls for 2.00
buckeyestud folds
jhjjenson folds

Dealing River 8h, Js, 5d, 4c, Jc

sitegold1 checks
hero bets 5.00
sitegold1 raises to 20.00
hero raises to 50.00
sitegold1 raises all in to 134
hero ?
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Old 06-03-2005, 09:54 AM #2 (permalink)  
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dont check the flop. id call the river. 2pr isnt slowplaying til the river...i say the raiser has KJ or QJ. some hand that he was retardely slowplaying.
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Old 06-03-2005, 03:20 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I don't mind the slowplay on flop too much but I always like to bet the flop when you have it and when you don't.

Looks to me like both of you are slowplaying. I bet he has J8 or 88 and slowplayed his 2 pair. I have lost many buy-ins on FH to better FH or set v. FH.

I call anyway.

Another problem is his AI on the river smells. Either he has the nuts or he doesn't. The AI river bet without the nuts is idiotic b/c the only hands that make that call have you crushed like in this case where you have a FH.
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Old 06-03-2005, 03:28 PM #4 (permalink)  
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SB, he could have anything.

Why check the flop when it's 5 way action? Especially when you're practically closing action.

You can find a fold here if you respect the player.

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Old 06-03-2005, 04:34 PM #5 (permalink)  
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What rilla said. If you think he's a solid player, consider a fold. Otherwise I'd suspect he's someone stupidly slowplaying J g00t kicker (who may think you have J not-g00t kicker).

I do bet out the flop 5-handed like that though.

I probably call this with no reads. Though I hate the deep stacks with that call.
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Old 06-03-2005, 08:49 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 Okay, so I should've bet the flop. My reasoning for the check was because the table was pretty aggressive, I figured with no flush draw out the turn card would hopefully be blank and someone else would bet out on the turn. If i bet now i saw folds all around... but i would've been wrong.

I think i made a huge mistake here by not folding. This one kindof bugs me, i feel like if I had just taken a few seconds to think i would've folded, but it was right there the call button so i just clicked it. I respected him enough to know there was no way he was pushing without a Jx full house, he had J8, I just found it odd the way he played it. Up until he pushed, I thought he had some decent jack that he just wanted to play conservatively and call down with to see a moderate showdown. Then he hit his trips and wanted to get a decent pot. But even AJ i don't think would've pushed after i raised to 50. oh well.
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