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Old 09-29-2008, 02:29 AM     Post subject: deep and polarised, two pair good to ship? #1 (permalink)  
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 my image this table this session is probably fairly warped - today is one of my balance/polarisation sessions to mess with the HUD-bots
UTG likes to raise from all positions and is loose-meh-crap
3-better is an aggro piece of fun - I have him 52-13 and 10% 3-bet over 400 hands.

3-betting here is sometimes standard - but this isn't that session, and calling/folding are also legitimate against these players. But it's deep and I've had too much coffee today....

Flop is all good, if I think about folding then why am I playing this pre-flop. Sets are unlikely - 5 hands out of huge ranges.
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Button ($34.25)
SB ($12.75)
BB ($32.05)
UTG ($58.20)
UTG+1 ($84.30)
Hero (MP1) ($104.75)
MP2 ($35.40)
MP3 ($75.85)
CO ($96.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7, 8
UTG raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50, 1 fold, MP3 raises to $3.50, 1 fold, Button calls $3.50, SB calls $3.25, 1 fold, UTG calls $2, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($18) 8, 7, K (5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $11.50, MP3 raises to $30, Button calls $30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $101.25 (All-In), MP3 calls $42.35 (All-In), Button calls $0.75 (All-In)
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 09-29-2008, 02:39 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I like this line. 77-88 are a stretch.... KK sucks but is fair for MP3... It feels like AA or maybe even 9dTd or 5d6d....


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Old 09-29-2008, 05:11 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 do u know what polarized means
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Old 09-29-2008, 06:16 AM #4 (permalink)  
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do u know what polarized means
it means I want people to think I'm smart
... right?
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Old 09-29-2008, 06:39 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 i guess it is possible to balance your polarizing
 
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Old 09-29-2008, 07:24 AM #6 (permalink)  
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do u know what polarized means
actually, i don't really understand the difference between balance and polarising. I sort of use the two terms interchangeably, I thought that may be wrong... guess I'll search out their meanings now. Thanks for pointing that out
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 09-29-2008, 07:45 AM #7 (permalink)  
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polarized => Your range is very good hands and very bad hands but not medium hands. e.g. Sets and missed flush draws but not single pairs on the river.

balanced => Given the pot odds you are offering and the proportion of your range I beat, it is close whether it is a call or fold so my decision is difficult and im likely to make a mistake. e.g. 2/3 of the time you have a set. 1/3 of the time you have a missed flush draw and you shove for a potsized bet.
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Old 09-29-2008, 07:47 AM #8 (permalink)  
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sure, get it in.
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Old 09-29-2008, 07:48 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Oh yeah id also play every street the same
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:05 AM #10 (permalink)  
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 also i don't understand where balance comes into play at any point in this hand either.
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:41 AM #11 (permalink)  
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also i don't understand where balance comes into play at any point in this hand either.
pre-flop? or is even that not balance?
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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 preflop you should call if its profitable and fold if it isn't

theres no point in calling unprofitable hands for "balance" purposes, and its stupid to fold profitable hands.

unless utg is real bad, its a for sure fold pre.
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 utg is real bad...

so balance <> range breadth...
starting to understand after some blunt object discussion on irc...
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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if he had 99 he played perfectly on every street. I'm confused.
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if he had 99 he played perfectly on every street. I'm confused.
sorry, it was button who had 99
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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if he had 99 he played perfectly on every street. I'm confused.
where the hell did you get that?
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haha daven edited his post and made me look like a retard

If the button is that terrible then absolutely get it in.
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haha daven edited his post and made me look like a retard

If the button is that terrible then absolutely get it in.
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utg had 99
,
then i realised it was the guy who went to showdown
oops
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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