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Old 04-25-2006, 08:46 PM     Post subject: dangerous stab or good c-bet? #1 (permalink)  
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***** Hand History for Game 4079596771 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, April 24, 15:20:42 ET 2006
Table Coelestina (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: no1lefty1987 ( $32.60 )
Seat 4: sinivalas ( $37.45 )
Seat 6: Monthy_Burns ( $15.51 )
Seat 7: veronique59 ( $4.35 )
Seat 8: Julian1984 ( $44.39 )
Seat 9: HardStylin ( $21.60 )
Seat 10: mjslinky ( $5.31 )
Seat 3: devylr ( $41.16 )
Seat 5: hamsterhead2 ( $7.25 )
Seat 1: canugur29 ( $4.75 )
hamsterhead2 posts small blind [$0.10].
Monthy_Burns posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to devylr [ Th Ts ]
>You have options at Table 98724 Table!.
Monthy_Burns: lol
veronique59 folds.
>You have options at Dark Horse Table!.
Julian1984 calls [$0.25].
HardStylin folds.
mjslinky raises [$1].
canugur29 folds.
no1lefty1987 calls [$1].
devylr raises [$3].
sinivalas folds.
hamsterhead2 folds.
Monthy_Burns folds.
Julian1984 folds.
mjslinky is all-In.
>You have options at Dark Horse Table!.
no1lefty1987 calls [$4.31].
>You have options at Dark Horse Table!.
devylr raises [$10].
no1lefty1987 calls [$7.69].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, Kd, 6s ]
>You have options at Table 98724 Table!.
no1lefty1987 checks.
devylr bets [$9].
no1lefty1987 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]
devylr shows [ Th, Ts ] a pair of tens.
mjslinky doesn't show [ 9c, 5c ] a pair of nines.
devylr wins $23.63 from side pot #1 with a pair of tens.
devylr wins $15.73 from the main pot with a pair of tens.

MP1 is AI preflop.
main pot is 16.53.
side pot is 11.07 when I make the $9 bet on the flop.

During the preflop action, I reraised twice. The first was to take it down there, the second one was to get HU with the AI player. Given that the monkey in the middle flat called me preflop, and checked into me on the flop, should I be more cautious in case of JJ/KK/AA, or is there enough equity from QQ/complete donkage to make this c-bet?

The edit was to explain what happened with MP1. Anyone know of a better hand converter?

edit 2:
Ok, so I missed some missing action on the first edit. Fuck the converter, here's the actual HH.
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Old 04-25-2006, 08:56 PM #2 (permalink)  
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This pot is huge, why the reraise with TT? With a raise and a call ahead of me, I would call and set hunt. You raise, are reraised and then you reraise again to 52xBB. With aces or kings Id make this play, but not even with queens would I do this. I dont want a pot this big with tens.

Anyways, this hand looks really confusing and I dont understand the flop really. Was there one all in, and then 2 others left, you bet and then those two folded? Either way this is not a flop you want to be cbeting when Id say the ONLY hands my opponents have are bigger PP meaning JJ+ or AK, all of which have you beat. And when the pot is almost $30, a third of the pot is not a good sized cbet, thats more of a value bet but you dont want to get called here. At this poiint I would check/fold unless I hit a T.
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What happened to MP1?
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Old 04-26-2006, 06:20 PM #4 (permalink)  
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fixed my post.
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Old 04-26-2006, 07:41 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Why are you reraising with TT, I know what you said in your first post, to take it down, but why not just call? Reraising with TT isnt really the best play here, flat call and look for a set, any hand that they are [logically] calling this many bets with beats you, you are going to be at best a coinflip against two overs and at worse dominated by a higher pocket pair. What range do you put on that flat calls a raise and then reraises you?
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The HH got pretty screwed up by the converter. I guess it freaks out over side pots. No one flat called and then reraises me, that was two different players. I switched it to just the regular HH.

Here's how it went:
mp1(short stack) raises to $1, mp3 calls, I reraise to $3, shortstack goes all in for 5.31, mp3 calls...

My reraise here was to get the flat caller out, there is a good chance he's on a small pp.

I reraise to $13, mp3 calls again.

Now I'm scared. Flop comes out with two overs, but he checks it to me. The pot is so big I can't help but try to get him off his hand (thinking 9s, 8s, maybe Qs).

I bet $9 into an $11 side pot and $16 main pot. He folds his underpair.
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